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All are Latin, or I guess come from Latin, but is it a direct shot to say that whenever Suburbs first became recognized and named, that they were given the status of being Superb? At one point was that kind of synonymous in the minds of the general public?



Where this is coming from is that I'm trying to understand the Latin word Superbas (which does mean Suburb), as the Brooklyn Dodgers were called the 'Brooklyn Superbas' for many years back in the day. The meaning thus, I suppose, being that Brooklyn was a Suburb – and a kind of lesser double entendre that they were a Superb team.



But isn't the NY borough of Brooklyn NOT a suburb?, since it's about a stone's-throw away from downtown and in fact a part of the city proper?



So I've got era, coastal, and dyslexic issues working against me here.



When you hear that a team from 1900 was called the Brooklyn Superbas, which one should be thought of first? Did fans from that era just understand it primarily meant one or the other? (Suburb vs. Superb)










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  • "the Latin word Superbas (which does mean Suburb)" – can you provide a citation? I don't especially doubt you, but I'm having a hard time finding any discussion of this word myself.

    – sumelic
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  • All the Latin dictionaries I've searched have just listed it as the accusative feminine plural of "superbus".

    – sumelic
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    "Suburb" is a shortening of "suburban", and "suburban" is the combination of "sub" and "urban". No relation whatsoever to "superb". And never saw the word "superbus" before.

    – Hot Licks
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  • @HotLicks: superbus is not English, but Latin (it's the word "superb" comes from, although it could also mean some other things). As far as I can tell, this question states that superbas is also a Latin word, that has the meaning of "suburb." I haven't been able to find any other evidence of superbas meaning "suburb" in Latin, which is why I asked for a source.

    – sumelic
    Jun 26 '15 at 4:07











  • @sumelic - Yep, and the main connection between the words is that they share many of the same letters.

    – Hot Licks
    Jun 26 '15 at 12:13

















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All are Latin, or I guess come from Latin, but is it a direct shot to say that whenever Suburbs first became recognized and named, that they were given the status of being Superb? At one point was that kind of synonymous in the minds of the general public?



Where this is coming from is that I'm trying to understand the Latin word Superbas (which does mean Suburb), as the Brooklyn Dodgers were called the 'Brooklyn Superbas' for many years back in the day. The meaning thus, I suppose, being that Brooklyn was a Suburb – and a kind of lesser double entendre that they were a Superb team.



But isn't the NY borough of Brooklyn NOT a suburb?, since it's about a stone's-throw away from downtown and in fact a part of the city proper?



So I've got era, coastal, and dyslexic issues working against me here.



When you hear that a team from 1900 was called the Brooklyn Superbas, which one should be thought of first? Did fans from that era just understand it primarily meant one or the other? (Suburb vs. Superb)










share|improve this question
























  • "the Latin word Superbas (which does mean Suburb)" – can you provide a citation? I don't especially doubt you, but I'm having a hard time finding any discussion of this word myself.

    – sumelic
    Jun 25 '15 at 20:50











  • All the Latin dictionaries I've searched have just listed it as the accusative feminine plural of "superbus".

    – sumelic
    Jun 25 '15 at 20:58






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    "Suburb" is a shortening of "suburban", and "suburban" is the combination of "sub" and "urban". No relation whatsoever to "superb". And never saw the word "superbus" before.

    – Hot Licks
    Jun 26 '15 at 1:38











  • @HotLicks: superbus is not English, but Latin (it's the word "superb" comes from, although it could also mean some other things). As far as I can tell, this question states that superbas is also a Latin word, that has the meaning of "suburb." I haven't been able to find any other evidence of superbas meaning "suburb" in Latin, which is why I asked for a source.

    – sumelic
    Jun 26 '15 at 4:07











  • @sumelic - Yep, and the main connection between the words is that they share many of the same letters.

    – Hot Licks
    Jun 26 '15 at 12:13













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All are Latin, or I guess come from Latin, but is it a direct shot to say that whenever Suburbs first became recognized and named, that they were given the status of being Superb? At one point was that kind of synonymous in the minds of the general public?



Where this is coming from is that I'm trying to understand the Latin word Superbas (which does mean Suburb), as the Brooklyn Dodgers were called the 'Brooklyn Superbas' for many years back in the day. The meaning thus, I suppose, being that Brooklyn was a Suburb – and a kind of lesser double entendre that they were a Superb team.



But isn't the NY borough of Brooklyn NOT a suburb?, since it's about a stone's-throw away from downtown and in fact a part of the city proper?



So I've got era, coastal, and dyslexic issues working against me here.



When you hear that a team from 1900 was called the Brooklyn Superbas, which one should be thought of first? Did fans from that era just understand it primarily meant one or the other? (Suburb vs. Superb)










share|improve this question
















All are Latin, or I guess come from Latin, but is it a direct shot to say that whenever Suburbs first became recognized and named, that they were given the status of being Superb? At one point was that kind of synonymous in the minds of the general public?



Where this is coming from is that I'm trying to understand the Latin word Superbas (which does mean Suburb), as the Brooklyn Dodgers were called the 'Brooklyn Superbas' for many years back in the day. The meaning thus, I suppose, being that Brooklyn was a Suburb – and a kind of lesser double entendre that they were a Superb team.



But isn't the NY borough of Brooklyn NOT a suburb?, since it's about a stone's-throw away from downtown and in fact a part of the city proper?



So I've got era, coastal, and dyslexic issues working against me here.



When you hear that a team from 1900 was called the Brooklyn Superbas, which one should be thought of first? Did fans from that era just understand it primarily meant one or the other? (Suburb vs. Superb)







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  • "the Latin word Superbas (which does mean Suburb)" – can you provide a citation? I don't especially doubt you, but I'm having a hard time finding any discussion of this word myself.

    – sumelic
    Jun 25 '15 at 20:50











  • All the Latin dictionaries I've searched have just listed it as the accusative feminine plural of "superbus".

    – sumelic
    Jun 25 '15 at 20:58






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    "Suburb" is a shortening of "suburban", and "suburban" is the combination of "sub" and "urban". No relation whatsoever to "superb". And never saw the word "superbus" before.

    – Hot Licks
    Jun 26 '15 at 1:38











  • @HotLicks: superbus is not English, but Latin (it's the word "superb" comes from, although it could also mean some other things). As far as I can tell, this question states that superbas is also a Latin word, that has the meaning of "suburb." I haven't been able to find any other evidence of superbas meaning "suburb" in Latin, which is why I asked for a source.

    – sumelic
    Jun 26 '15 at 4:07











  • @sumelic - Yep, and the main connection between the words is that they share many of the same letters.

    – Hot Licks
    Jun 26 '15 at 12:13

















  • "the Latin word Superbas (which does mean Suburb)" – can you provide a citation? I don't especially doubt you, but I'm having a hard time finding any discussion of this word myself.

    – sumelic
    Jun 25 '15 at 20:50











  • All the Latin dictionaries I've searched have just listed it as the accusative feminine plural of "superbus".

    – sumelic
    Jun 25 '15 at 20:58






  • 1





    "Suburb" is a shortening of "suburban", and "suburban" is the combination of "sub" and "urban". No relation whatsoever to "superb". And never saw the word "superbus" before.

    – Hot Licks
    Jun 26 '15 at 1:38











  • @HotLicks: superbus is not English, but Latin (it's the word "superb" comes from, although it could also mean some other things). As far as I can tell, this question states that superbas is also a Latin word, that has the meaning of "suburb." I haven't been able to find any other evidence of superbas meaning "suburb" in Latin, which is why I asked for a source.

    – sumelic
    Jun 26 '15 at 4:07











  • @sumelic - Yep, and the main connection between the words is that they share many of the same letters.

    – Hot Licks
    Jun 26 '15 at 12:13
















"the Latin word Superbas (which does mean Suburb)" – can you provide a citation? I don't especially doubt you, but I'm having a hard time finding any discussion of this word myself.

– sumelic
Jun 25 '15 at 20:50





"the Latin word Superbas (which does mean Suburb)" – can you provide a citation? I don't especially doubt you, but I'm having a hard time finding any discussion of this word myself.

– sumelic
Jun 25 '15 at 20:50













All the Latin dictionaries I've searched have just listed it as the accusative feminine plural of "superbus".

– sumelic
Jun 25 '15 at 20:58





All the Latin dictionaries I've searched have just listed it as the accusative feminine plural of "superbus".

– sumelic
Jun 25 '15 at 20:58




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"Suburb" is a shortening of "suburban", and "suburban" is the combination of "sub" and "urban". No relation whatsoever to "superb". And never saw the word "superbus" before.

– Hot Licks
Jun 26 '15 at 1:38





"Suburb" is a shortening of "suburban", and "suburban" is the combination of "sub" and "urban". No relation whatsoever to "superb". And never saw the word "superbus" before.

– Hot Licks
Jun 26 '15 at 1:38













@HotLicks: superbus is not English, but Latin (it's the word "superb" comes from, although it could also mean some other things). As far as I can tell, this question states that superbas is also a Latin word, that has the meaning of "suburb." I haven't been able to find any other evidence of superbas meaning "suburb" in Latin, which is why I asked for a source.

– sumelic
Jun 26 '15 at 4:07





@HotLicks: superbus is not English, but Latin (it's the word "superb" comes from, although it could also mean some other things). As far as I can tell, this question states that superbas is also a Latin word, that has the meaning of "suburb." I haven't been able to find any other evidence of superbas meaning "suburb" in Latin, which is why I asked for a source.

– sumelic
Jun 26 '15 at 4:07













@sumelic - Yep, and the main connection between the words is that they share many of the same letters.

– Hot Licks
Jun 26 '15 at 12:13





@sumelic - Yep, and the main connection between the words is that they share many of the same letters.

– Hot Licks
Jun 26 '15 at 12:13










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Apparently, the "Superbas" name used for the Dodgers under the management of Ned Hanlon was a pluralized form of "Superba," a reference to an apparently somewhat well-known vaudeville production put on by the Hanlon brothers, an unrelated group of performers, acrobats, and inventors. I'm stumped as to any connection to the word "suburb" (beside a certain phonetic similarity).



I haven't been able to find any sources about the origin of the vaudeville event's name, but it looks to me like it's just the feminine form of Latin "superbus" in the sense of "excellent": "Superba" is apparently the name of a good character in the play.



This would make the 'Brooklyn Superbas' nickname ultimately related to the word "superb."



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    These two words aren't related; they have different roots from Greek and Latin. Superb uses the root super- while suburb uses the root sub-. Super- is for above while sub- is for below (See: List of Greek and Latin roots in English). The word suburb uses the sub and urb roots to make an under-city, or an outlying area of a city. The word superbas is still sub and not super because the sub root can be used as su/suf/sug/sup/sus and it creates confusion. In the case of it meaning suburb in latin, the "sup" part of the word refers to below, not above.



    Another Latin word for suburb is suburbio.






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    • I just realized that superbas means suburb as well, let me edit my answer. I thought you meant superba.

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    • My answer still holds true, I just needed to elaborate on how superbas isn't using the root super but instead sup which still refers to the below or under property.

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    • My fault. I had the word “Superba” (a local street name, to confuse things further) but just edited it to the correct word, which is still in the question title. Thanks for answering. I'll leave the question open for a bit to see if someone can shed further light as to the specifics of 1900s fans and a NY understanding.

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    • If you want to take my original answer as it was, you could see the name as a way of calling the team beautiful while describing its physical origins in the suburbs of Brooklyn.

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    Brooklyn Superbas is an interesting name - and I think a sophisticated play on words. Pronounced English it recalls suburb - Latin sub + urb-, under + city.
    It also reminds of Latin super and superbus. Superbus has a lot of meanings, one is excellent. So the name indicates "the team from the suburb", but also "the excellent team, maybe the best".






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      From http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/today-in-1899-the-brooklyn-superbas-were-born/:




      Today in 1899, The Brooklyn Superbas Were Born by Alex Remington -
      February 7, 2013



      Today in the 1898-1899 offseason, a remarkable thing happened: as the
      ownership groups in Baltimore and Brooklyn swapped part shares in each
      other’s clubs, the Orioles effectively merged with the Dodgers, with
      the class of the two ballclubs going to Brooklyn and the dregs staying
      in Baltimore — with the exception of star Baltimore third baseman John
      McGraw, who refused to leave. (Imagine if Jeffrey Loria traded a stake
      in the Marlins to Rogers Communications to obtain a stake in the Blue
      Jays, and you begin to get the idea.) The super-team in Brooklyn,
      formerly called the Trolley Dodgers, became known as the “Superbas.”




      And this from http://www.boweryboyshistory.com/2011/08/brooklyn-baseball-superbas-and-worst.html:




      A couple weeks ago I wrote about the daredevil vaudevillian acrobats
      the Hanlon Brothers, known for extraordinary feats of human agility
      mixed into theatrical extravaganzas. They made their debut at Niblo’s
      Garden in 1858, and fifty years later, their sons were still carrying
      on the tradition of thrilling audiences with their mix of fantasy,
      theater and gymnastics.



      In the 1890s, the Hanlon sons focused their energies on two popular
      traveling variety shows, elaborate productions akin to a stadium rock
      show, often employing revolving stages, costumed casts, and
      sophisticated harnesses and props. The first, Fantasma!, would later
      be the subject of Thomas Edison’s early films. Their second, Superba!,
      would accidentally inspire the world of baseball.



      In 1899, scrappy baseball superstar Ned Hanlon — who made his career
      in the 1880s in Cleveland and Pittsburgh — moved to Brooklyn to manage
      the then-named Brooklyn Bridegrooms. Ned Hanlon was not related to
      the flamboyant Hanlon brothers in any way. However, simply by
      confusion or a cheeky name-play by journalists, the team was soon
      called the Brooklyn Superbas, borrowing the title of the popular
      theatrical show. (You pronounce it the Su-PER-bas.) The name stuck
      until the early 1910s, when the borough’s primary form of
      transportation inspired another nickname — the Trolley Dodgers, soon
      shortened to just the Brooklyn Dodgers.




      So I'm not seeing any connection to the suburbs here.






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        Lucius Tarquinius Superbus (died 495 BC) was the legendary seventh and final King of Rome, reigning from 535 BC until the popular uprising in 509 that led to the establishment of the Roman Republic. He is commonly known as Tarquin the Proud, from his cognomen Superbus (Latin for "proud, arrogant, lofty").[1]






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            Apparently, the "Superbas" name used for the Dodgers under the management of Ned Hanlon was a pluralized form of "Superba," a reference to an apparently somewhat well-known vaudeville production put on by the Hanlon brothers, an unrelated group of performers, acrobats, and inventors. I'm stumped as to any connection to the word "suburb" (beside a certain phonetic similarity).



            I haven't been able to find any sources about the origin of the vaudeville event's name, but it looks to me like it's just the feminine form of Latin "superbus" in the sense of "excellent": "Superba" is apparently the name of a good character in the play.



            This would make the 'Brooklyn Superbas' nickname ultimately related to the word "superb."



            Source:
            http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/bridegrooms_brooklyn_baseball_team






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              Apparently, the "Superbas" name used for the Dodgers under the management of Ned Hanlon was a pluralized form of "Superba," a reference to an apparently somewhat well-known vaudeville production put on by the Hanlon brothers, an unrelated group of performers, acrobats, and inventors. I'm stumped as to any connection to the word "suburb" (beside a certain phonetic similarity).



              I haven't been able to find any sources about the origin of the vaudeville event's name, but it looks to me like it's just the feminine form of Latin "superbus" in the sense of "excellent": "Superba" is apparently the name of a good character in the play.



              This would make the 'Brooklyn Superbas' nickname ultimately related to the word "superb."



              Source:
              http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/bridegrooms_brooklyn_baseball_team






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                Apparently, the "Superbas" name used for the Dodgers under the management of Ned Hanlon was a pluralized form of "Superba," a reference to an apparently somewhat well-known vaudeville production put on by the Hanlon brothers, an unrelated group of performers, acrobats, and inventors. I'm stumped as to any connection to the word "suburb" (beside a certain phonetic similarity).



                I haven't been able to find any sources about the origin of the vaudeville event's name, but it looks to me like it's just the feminine form of Latin "superbus" in the sense of "excellent": "Superba" is apparently the name of a good character in the play.



                This would make the 'Brooklyn Superbas' nickname ultimately related to the word "superb."



                Source:
                http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/bridegrooms_brooklyn_baseball_team






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                Apparently, the "Superbas" name used for the Dodgers under the management of Ned Hanlon was a pluralized form of "Superba," a reference to an apparently somewhat well-known vaudeville production put on by the Hanlon brothers, an unrelated group of performers, acrobats, and inventors. I'm stumped as to any connection to the word "suburb" (beside a certain phonetic similarity).



                I haven't been able to find any sources about the origin of the vaudeville event's name, but it looks to me like it's just the feminine form of Latin "superbus" in the sense of "excellent": "Superba" is apparently the name of a good character in the play.



                This would make the 'Brooklyn Superbas' nickname ultimately related to the word "superb."



                Source:
                http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/bridegrooms_brooklyn_baseball_team







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                    These two words aren't related; they have different roots from Greek and Latin. Superb uses the root super- while suburb uses the root sub-. Super- is for above while sub- is for below (See: List of Greek and Latin roots in English). The word suburb uses the sub and urb roots to make an under-city, or an outlying area of a city. The word superbas is still sub and not super because the sub root can be used as su/suf/sug/sup/sus and it creates confusion. In the case of it meaning suburb in latin, the "sup" part of the word refers to below, not above.



                    Another Latin word for suburb is suburbio.






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                    • I just realized that superbas means suburb as well, let me edit my answer. I thought you meant superba.

                      – Blubberguy22
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                    • My answer still holds true, I just needed to elaborate on how superbas isn't using the root super but instead sup which still refers to the below or under property.

                      – Blubberguy22
                      Jun 25 '15 at 19:39











                    • My fault. I had the word “Superba” (a local street name, to confuse things further) but just edited it to the correct word, which is still in the question title. Thanks for answering. I'll leave the question open for a bit to see if someone can shed further light as to the specifics of 1900s fans and a NY understanding.

                      – ipso
                      Jun 25 '15 at 19:43












                    • If you want to take my original answer as it was, you could see the name as a way of calling the team beautiful while describing its physical origins in the suburbs of Brooklyn.

                      – Blubberguy22
                      Jun 25 '15 at 19:45















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                    These two words aren't related; they have different roots from Greek and Latin. Superb uses the root super- while suburb uses the root sub-. Super- is for above while sub- is for below (See: List of Greek and Latin roots in English). The word suburb uses the sub and urb roots to make an under-city, or an outlying area of a city. The word superbas is still sub and not super because the sub root can be used as su/suf/sug/sup/sus and it creates confusion. In the case of it meaning suburb in latin, the "sup" part of the word refers to below, not above.



                    Another Latin word for suburb is suburbio.






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                    • I just realized that superbas means suburb as well, let me edit my answer. I thought you meant superba.

                      – Blubberguy22
                      Jun 25 '15 at 19:36











                    • My answer still holds true, I just needed to elaborate on how superbas isn't using the root super but instead sup which still refers to the below or under property.

                      – Blubberguy22
                      Jun 25 '15 at 19:39











                    • My fault. I had the word “Superba” (a local street name, to confuse things further) but just edited it to the correct word, which is still in the question title. Thanks for answering. I'll leave the question open for a bit to see if someone can shed further light as to the specifics of 1900s fans and a NY understanding.

                      – ipso
                      Jun 25 '15 at 19:43












                    • If you want to take my original answer as it was, you could see the name as a way of calling the team beautiful while describing its physical origins in the suburbs of Brooklyn.

                      – Blubberguy22
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                    These two words aren't related; they have different roots from Greek and Latin. Superb uses the root super- while suburb uses the root sub-. Super- is for above while sub- is for below (See: List of Greek and Latin roots in English). The word suburb uses the sub and urb roots to make an under-city, or an outlying area of a city. The word superbas is still sub and not super because the sub root can be used as su/suf/sug/sup/sus and it creates confusion. In the case of it meaning suburb in latin, the "sup" part of the word refers to below, not above.



                    Another Latin word for suburb is suburbio.






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                    These two words aren't related; they have different roots from Greek and Latin. Superb uses the root super- while suburb uses the root sub-. Super- is for above while sub- is for below (See: List of Greek and Latin roots in English). The word suburb uses the sub and urb roots to make an under-city, or an outlying area of a city. The word superbas is still sub and not super because the sub root can be used as su/suf/sug/sup/sus and it creates confusion. In the case of it meaning suburb in latin, the "sup" part of the word refers to below, not above.



                    Another Latin word for suburb is suburbio.







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                    • I just realized that superbas means suburb as well, let me edit my answer. I thought you meant superba.

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                    • My answer still holds true, I just needed to elaborate on how superbas isn't using the root super but instead sup which still refers to the below or under property.

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                    • My fault. I had the word “Superba” (a local street name, to confuse things further) but just edited it to the correct word, which is still in the question title. Thanks for answering. I'll leave the question open for a bit to see if someone can shed further light as to the specifics of 1900s fans and a NY understanding.

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                    • If you want to take my original answer as it was, you could see the name as a way of calling the team beautiful while describing its physical origins in the suburbs of Brooklyn.

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                    • I just realized that superbas means suburb as well, let me edit my answer. I thought you meant superba.

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                      Jun 25 '15 at 19:36











                    • My answer still holds true, I just needed to elaborate on how superbas isn't using the root super but instead sup which still refers to the below or under property.

                      – Blubberguy22
                      Jun 25 '15 at 19:39











                    • My fault. I had the word “Superba” (a local street name, to confuse things further) but just edited it to the correct word, which is still in the question title. Thanks for answering. I'll leave the question open for a bit to see if someone can shed further light as to the specifics of 1900s fans and a NY understanding.

                      – ipso
                      Jun 25 '15 at 19:43












                    • If you want to take my original answer as it was, you could see the name as a way of calling the team beautiful while describing its physical origins in the suburbs of Brooklyn.

                      – Blubberguy22
                      Jun 25 '15 at 19:45
















                    I just realized that superbas means suburb as well, let me edit my answer. I thought you meant superba.

                    – Blubberguy22
                    Jun 25 '15 at 19:36





                    I just realized that superbas means suburb as well, let me edit my answer. I thought you meant superba.

                    – Blubberguy22
                    Jun 25 '15 at 19:36













                    My answer still holds true, I just needed to elaborate on how superbas isn't using the root super but instead sup which still refers to the below or under property.

                    – Blubberguy22
                    Jun 25 '15 at 19:39





                    My answer still holds true, I just needed to elaborate on how superbas isn't using the root super but instead sup which still refers to the below or under property.

                    – Blubberguy22
                    Jun 25 '15 at 19:39













                    My fault. I had the word “Superba” (a local street name, to confuse things further) but just edited it to the correct word, which is still in the question title. Thanks for answering. I'll leave the question open for a bit to see if someone can shed further light as to the specifics of 1900s fans and a NY understanding.

                    – ipso
                    Jun 25 '15 at 19:43






                    My fault. I had the word “Superba” (a local street name, to confuse things further) but just edited it to the correct word, which is still in the question title. Thanks for answering. I'll leave the question open for a bit to see if someone can shed further light as to the specifics of 1900s fans and a NY understanding.

                    – ipso
                    Jun 25 '15 at 19:43














                    If you want to take my original answer as it was, you could see the name as a way of calling the team beautiful while describing its physical origins in the suburbs of Brooklyn.

                    – Blubberguy22
                    Jun 25 '15 at 19:45





                    If you want to take my original answer as it was, you could see the name as a way of calling the team beautiful while describing its physical origins in the suburbs of Brooklyn.

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                    Brooklyn Superbas is an interesting name - and I think a sophisticated play on words. Pronounced English it recalls suburb - Latin sub + urb-, under + city.
                    It also reminds of Latin super and superbus. Superbus has a lot of meanings, one is excellent. So the name indicates "the team from the suburb", but also "the excellent team, maybe the best".






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                      Brooklyn Superbas is an interesting name - and I think a sophisticated play on words. Pronounced English it recalls suburb - Latin sub + urb-, under + city.
                      It also reminds of Latin super and superbus. Superbus has a lot of meanings, one is excellent. So the name indicates "the team from the suburb", but also "the excellent team, maybe the best".






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                        Brooklyn Superbas is an interesting name - and I think a sophisticated play on words. Pronounced English it recalls suburb - Latin sub + urb-, under + city.
                        It also reminds of Latin super and superbus. Superbus has a lot of meanings, one is excellent. So the name indicates "the team from the suburb", but also "the excellent team, maybe the best".






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                        Brooklyn Superbas is an interesting name - and I think a sophisticated play on words. Pronounced English it recalls suburb - Latin sub + urb-, under + city.
                        It also reminds of Latin super and superbus. Superbus has a lot of meanings, one is excellent. So the name indicates "the team from the suburb", but also "the excellent team, maybe the best".







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                            From http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/today-in-1899-the-brooklyn-superbas-were-born/:




                            Today in 1899, The Brooklyn Superbas Were Born by Alex Remington -
                            February 7, 2013



                            Today in the 1898-1899 offseason, a remarkable thing happened: as the
                            ownership groups in Baltimore and Brooklyn swapped part shares in each
                            other’s clubs, the Orioles effectively merged with the Dodgers, with
                            the class of the two ballclubs going to Brooklyn and the dregs staying
                            in Baltimore — with the exception of star Baltimore third baseman John
                            McGraw, who refused to leave. (Imagine if Jeffrey Loria traded a stake
                            in the Marlins to Rogers Communications to obtain a stake in the Blue
                            Jays, and you begin to get the idea.) The super-team in Brooklyn,
                            formerly called the Trolley Dodgers, became known as the “Superbas.”




                            And this from http://www.boweryboyshistory.com/2011/08/brooklyn-baseball-superbas-and-worst.html:




                            A couple weeks ago I wrote about the daredevil vaudevillian acrobats
                            the Hanlon Brothers, known for extraordinary feats of human agility
                            mixed into theatrical extravaganzas. They made their debut at Niblo’s
                            Garden in 1858, and fifty years later, their sons were still carrying
                            on the tradition of thrilling audiences with their mix of fantasy,
                            theater and gymnastics.



                            In the 1890s, the Hanlon sons focused their energies on two popular
                            traveling variety shows, elaborate productions akin to a stadium rock
                            show, often employing revolving stages, costumed casts, and
                            sophisticated harnesses and props. The first, Fantasma!, would later
                            be the subject of Thomas Edison’s early films. Their second, Superba!,
                            would accidentally inspire the world of baseball.



                            In 1899, scrappy baseball superstar Ned Hanlon — who made his career
                            in the 1880s in Cleveland and Pittsburgh — moved to Brooklyn to manage
                            the then-named Brooklyn Bridegrooms. Ned Hanlon was not related to
                            the flamboyant Hanlon brothers in any way. However, simply by
                            confusion or a cheeky name-play by journalists, the team was soon
                            called the Brooklyn Superbas, borrowing the title of the popular
                            theatrical show. (You pronounce it the Su-PER-bas.) The name stuck
                            until the early 1910s, when the borough’s primary form of
                            transportation inspired another nickname — the Trolley Dodgers, soon
                            shortened to just the Brooklyn Dodgers.




                            So I'm not seeing any connection to the suburbs here.






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                              From http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/today-in-1899-the-brooklyn-superbas-were-born/:




                              Today in 1899, The Brooklyn Superbas Were Born by Alex Remington -
                              February 7, 2013



                              Today in the 1898-1899 offseason, a remarkable thing happened: as the
                              ownership groups in Baltimore and Brooklyn swapped part shares in each
                              other’s clubs, the Orioles effectively merged with the Dodgers, with
                              the class of the two ballclubs going to Brooklyn and the dregs staying
                              in Baltimore — with the exception of star Baltimore third baseman John
                              McGraw, who refused to leave. (Imagine if Jeffrey Loria traded a stake
                              in the Marlins to Rogers Communications to obtain a stake in the Blue
                              Jays, and you begin to get the idea.) The super-team in Brooklyn,
                              formerly called the Trolley Dodgers, became known as the “Superbas.”




                              And this from http://www.boweryboyshistory.com/2011/08/brooklyn-baseball-superbas-and-worst.html:




                              A couple weeks ago I wrote about the daredevil vaudevillian acrobats
                              the Hanlon Brothers, known for extraordinary feats of human agility
                              mixed into theatrical extravaganzas. They made their debut at Niblo’s
                              Garden in 1858, and fifty years later, their sons were still carrying
                              on the tradition of thrilling audiences with their mix of fantasy,
                              theater and gymnastics.



                              In the 1890s, the Hanlon sons focused their energies on two popular
                              traveling variety shows, elaborate productions akin to a stadium rock
                              show, often employing revolving stages, costumed casts, and
                              sophisticated harnesses and props. The first, Fantasma!, would later
                              be the subject of Thomas Edison’s early films. Their second, Superba!,
                              would accidentally inspire the world of baseball.



                              In 1899, scrappy baseball superstar Ned Hanlon — who made his career
                              in the 1880s in Cleveland and Pittsburgh — moved to Brooklyn to manage
                              the then-named Brooklyn Bridegrooms. Ned Hanlon was not related to
                              the flamboyant Hanlon brothers in any way. However, simply by
                              confusion or a cheeky name-play by journalists, the team was soon
                              called the Brooklyn Superbas, borrowing the title of the popular
                              theatrical show. (You pronounce it the Su-PER-bas.) The name stuck
                              until the early 1910s, when the borough’s primary form of
                              transportation inspired another nickname — the Trolley Dodgers, soon
                              shortened to just the Brooklyn Dodgers.




                              So I'm not seeing any connection to the suburbs here.






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                                From http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/today-in-1899-the-brooklyn-superbas-were-born/:




                                Today in 1899, The Brooklyn Superbas Were Born by Alex Remington -
                                February 7, 2013



                                Today in the 1898-1899 offseason, a remarkable thing happened: as the
                                ownership groups in Baltimore and Brooklyn swapped part shares in each
                                other’s clubs, the Orioles effectively merged with the Dodgers, with
                                the class of the two ballclubs going to Brooklyn and the dregs staying
                                in Baltimore — with the exception of star Baltimore third baseman John
                                McGraw, who refused to leave. (Imagine if Jeffrey Loria traded a stake
                                in the Marlins to Rogers Communications to obtain a stake in the Blue
                                Jays, and you begin to get the idea.) The super-team in Brooklyn,
                                formerly called the Trolley Dodgers, became known as the “Superbas.”




                                And this from http://www.boweryboyshistory.com/2011/08/brooklyn-baseball-superbas-and-worst.html:




                                A couple weeks ago I wrote about the daredevil vaudevillian acrobats
                                the Hanlon Brothers, known for extraordinary feats of human agility
                                mixed into theatrical extravaganzas. They made their debut at Niblo’s
                                Garden in 1858, and fifty years later, their sons were still carrying
                                on the tradition of thrilling audiences with their mix of fantasy,
                                theater and gymnastics.



                                In the 1890s, the Hanlon sons focused their energies on two popular
                                traveling variety shows, elaborate productions akin to a stadium rock
                                show, often employing revolving stages, costumed casts, and
                                sophisticated harnesses and props. The first, Fantasma!, would later
                                be the subject of Thomas Edison’s early films. Their second, Superba!,
                                would accidentally inspire the world of baseball.



                                In 1899, scrappy baseball superstar Ned Hanlon — who made his career
                                in the 1880s in Cleveland and Pittsburgh — moved to Brooklyn to manage
                                the then-named Brooklyn Bridegrooms. Ned Hanlon was not related to
                                the flamboyant Hanlon brothers in any way. However, simply by
                                confusion or a cheeky name-play by journalists, the team was soon
                                called the Brooklyn Superbas, borrowing the title of the popular
                                theatrical show. (You pronounce it the Su-PER-bas.) The name stuck
                                until the early 1910s, when the borough’s primary form of
                                transportation inspired another nickname — the Trolley Dodgers, soon
                                shortened to just the Brooklyn Dodgers.




                                So I'm not seeing any connection to the suburbs here.






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                                From http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/today-in-1899-the-brooklyn-superbas-were-born/:




                                Today in 1899, The Brooklyn Superbas Were Born by Alex Remington -
                                February 7, 2013



                                Today in the 1898-1899 offseason, a remarkable thing happened: as the
                                ownership groups in Baltimore and Brooklyn swapped part shares in each
                                other’s clubs, the Orioles effectively merged with the Dodgers, with
                                the class of the two ballclubs going to Brooklyn and the dregs staying
                                in Baltimore — with the exception of star Baltimore third baseman John
                                McGraw, who refused to leave. (Imagine if Jeffrey Loria traded a stake
                                in the Marlins to Rogers Communications to obtain a stake in the Blue
                                Jays, and you begin to get the idea.) The super-team in Brooklyn,
                                formerly called the Trolley Dodgers, became known as the “Superbas.”




                                And this from http://www.boweryboyshistory.com/2011/08/brooklyn-baseball-superbas-and-worst.html:




                                A couple weeks ago I wrote about the daredevil vaudevillian acrobats
                                the Hanlon Brothers, known for extraordinary feats of human agility
                                mixed into theatrical extravaganzas. They made their debut at Niblo’s
                                Garden in 1858, and fifty years later, their sons were still carrying
                                on the tradition of thrilling audiences with their mix of fantasy,
                                theater and gymnastics.



                                In the 1890s, the Hanlon sons focused their energies on two popular
                                traveling variety shows, elaborate productions akin to a stadium rock
                                show, often employing revolving stages, costumed casts, and
                                sophisticated harnesses and props. The first, Fantasma!, would later
                                be the subject of Thomas Edison’s early films. Their second, Superba!,
                                would accidentally inspire the world of baseball.



                                In 1899, scrappy baseball superstar Ned Hanlon — who made his career
                                in the 1880s in Cleveland and Pittsburgh — moved to Brooklyn to manage
                                the then-named Brooklyn Bridegrooms. Ned Hanlon was not related to
                                the flamboyant Hanlon brothers in any way. However, simply by
                                confusion or a cheeky name-play by journalists, the team was soon
                                called the Brooklyn Superbas, borrowing the title of the popular
                                theatrical show. (You pronounce it the Su-PER-bas.) The name stuck
                                until the early 1910s, when the borough’s primary form of
                                transportation inspired another nickname — the Trolley Dodgers, soon
                                shortened to just the Brooklyn Dodgers.




                                So I'm not seeing any connection to the suburbs here.







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                                    Lucius Tarquinius Superbus (died 495 BC) was the legendary seventh and final King of Rome, reigning from 535 BC until the popular uprising in 509 that led to the establishment of the Roman Republic. He is commonly known as Tarquin the Proud, from his cognomen Superbus (Latin for "proud, arrogant, lofty").[1]






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