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Usage of “he himself”



The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are In
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Is “myself” an interjection?Larry Trask seems to be violating rules about commas as mentioned in his own guideIs “not only… but as well…” grammatical?Correct usage of commas and semicolonsIs “in fact” always set off by commas mid-sentence?Microsoft word and confusion about himself/he/himWhen is a clause not essential?How should one punctuate a bulleted list in the middle of a sentence, not at the end?“Me” or “I” in one-word answersComma placement: should I set offComma usage with “or”



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The boy's innate goodness will withstand the challenges because unless he himself wants to turn evil, [...].




My teacher thinks that commas should set off the word "himself", but I disagree. Who is right, and why?










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  • 'because unless'... what? Either the word "because" is unnecessary, or there needs to be more to the sentence.

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    Not getting into "he himself", there should definitely be a comma after because: "unless he himself wants to turn evil" is interrupting the clause beginning with because

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The boy's innate goodness will withstand the challenges because unless he himself wants to turn evil, [...].




My teacher thinks that commas should set off the word "himself", but I disagree. Who is right, and why?










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  • 'because unless'... what? Either the word "because" is unnecessary, or there needs to be more to the sentence.

    – Marthaª
    Oct 19 '10 at 20:37











  • [...] continues it

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    Oct 19 '10 at 20:39






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    Not getting into "he himself", there should definitely be a comma after because: "unless he himself wants to turn evil" is interrupting the clause beginning with because

    – Kosmonaut
    Oct 19 '10 at 22:33













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The boy's innate goodness will withstand the challenges because unless he himself wants to turn evil, [...].




My teacher thinks that commas should set off the word "himself", but I disagree. Who is right, and why?










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The boy's innate goodness will withstand the challenges because unless he himself wants to turn evil, [...].




My teacher thinks that commas should set off the word "himself", but I disagree. Who is right, and why?







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  • 'because unless'... what? Either the word "because" is unnecessary, or there needs to be more to the sentence.

    – Marthaª
    Oct 19 '10 at 20:37











  • [...] continues it

    – Claudiu
    Oct 19 '10 at 20:39






  • 3





    Not getting into "he himself", there should definitely be a comma after because: "unless he himself wants to turn evil" is interrupting the clause beginning with because

    – Kosmonaut
    Oct 19 '10 at 22:33

















  • 'because unless'... what? Either the word "because" is unnecessary, or there needs to be more to the sentence.

    – Marthaª
    Oct 19 '10 at 20:37











  • [...] continues it

    – Claudiu
    Oct 19 '10 at 20:39






  • 3





    Not getting into "he himself", there should definitely be a comma after because: "unless he himself wants to turn evil" is interrupting the clause beginning with because

    – Kosmonaut
    Oct 19 '10 at 22:33
















'because unless'... what? Either the word "because" is unnecessary, or there needs to be more to the sentence.

– Marthaª
Oct 19 '10 at 20:37





'because unless'... what? Either the word "because" is unnecessary, or there needs to be more to the sentence.

– Marthaª
Oct 19 '10 at 20:37













[...] continues it

– Claudiu
Oct 19 '10 at 20:39





[...] continues it

– Claudiu
Oct 19 '10 at 20:39




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Not getting into "he himself", there should definitely be a comma after because: "unless he himself wants to turn evil" is interrupting the clause beginning with because

– Kosmonaut
Oct 19 '10 at 22:33





Not getting into "he himself", there should definitely be a comma after because: "unless he himself wants to turn evil" is interrupting the clause beginning with because

– Kosmonaut
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I think a comma would be wrong there.



(Deletes justification on the basis of it being a rearrangement of "he wants himself to turn evil", which is wrong because "he himself wants Fred to turn evil" is just as valid a sentence. At least I realised that before I posted.)



"Himself" here is actually an intensifier rather than a reflexive pronoun (the World Atlas of Language Structures notes that they are often identical). As such it very much belongs with the noun phrase it is intensifying ("He"), and splitting them with a comma would weaken that relationship.






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    I don't think commas are necessary here, but they could serve to emphasize that phrase.






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      The best way to resolve such doubts is the reference to English corpus:
      http://corpus2.byu.edu/coca/ - AmE, you need to sign up;
      http://www.natcorp.ox.ac.uk/ - BrE, you do not need to sign up.
      By the way, your teacher was wrong, you don't have to put commas before and after himself:)






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        I think a comma would be wrong there.



        (Deletes justification on the basis of it being a rearrangement of "he wants himself to turn evil", which is wrong because "he himself wants Fred to turn evil" is just as valid a sentence. At least I realised that before I posted.)



        "Himself" here is actually an intensifier rather than a reflexive pronoun (the World Atlas of Language Structures notes that they are often identical). As such it very much belongs with the noun phrase it is intensifying ("He"), and splitting them with a comma would weaken that relationship.






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          I think a comma would be wrong there.



          (Deletes justification on the basis of it being a rearrangement of "he wants himself to turn evil", which is wrong because "he himself wants Fred to turn evil" is just as valid a sentence. At least I realised that before I posted.)



          "Himself" here is actually an intensifier rather than a reflexive pronoun (the World Atlas of Language Structures notes that they are often identical). As such it very much belongs with the noun phrase it is intensifying ("He"), and splitting them with a comma would weaken that relationship.






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            I think a comma would be wrong there.



            (Deletes justification on the basis of it being a rearrangement of "he wants himself to turn evil", which is wrong because "he himself wants Fred to turn evil" is just as valid a sentence. At least I realised that before I posted.)



            "Himself" here is actually an intensifier rather than a reflexive pronoun (the World Atlas of Language Structures notes that they are often identical). As such it very much belongs with the noun phrase it is intensifying ("He"), and splitting them with a comma would weaken that relationship.






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            I think a comma would be wrong there.



            (Deletes justification on the basis of it being a rearrangement of "he wants himself to turn evil", which is wrong because "he himself wants Fred to turn evil" is just as valid a sentence. At least I realised that before I posted.)



            "Himself" here is actually an intensifier rather than a reflexive pronoun (the World Atlas of Language Structures notes that they are often identical). As such it very much belongs with the noun phrase it is intensifying ("He"), and splitting them with a comma would weaken that relationship.







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                I don't think commas are necessary here, but they could serve to emphasize that phrase.






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                        The best way to resolve such doubts is the reference to English corpus:
                        http://corpus2.byu.edu/coca/ - AmE, you need to sign up;
                        http://www.natcorp.ox.ac.uk/ - BrE, you do not need to sign up.
                        By the way, your teacher was wrong, you don't have to put commas before and after himself:)






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                          The best way to resolve such doubts is the reference to English corpus:
                          http://corpus2.byu.edu/coca/ - AmE, you need to sign up;
                          http://www.natcorp.ox.ac.uk/ - BrE, you do not need to sign up.
                          By the way, your teacher was wrong, you don't have to put commas before and after himself:)






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                            The best way to resolve such doubts is the reference to English corpus:
                            http://corpus2.byu.edu/coca/ - AmE, you need to sign up;
                            http://www.natcorp.ox.ac.uk/ - BrE, you do not need to sign up.
                            By the way, your teacher was wrong, you don't have to put commas before and after himself:)






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                            The best way to resolve such doubts is the reference to English corpus:
                            http://corpus2.byu.edu/coca/ - AmE, you need to sign up;
                            http://www.natcorp.ox.ac.uk/ - BrE, you do not need to sign up.
                            By the way, your teacher was wrong, you don't have to put commas before and after himself:)







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