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What meaning of/phrase based on the verb to call is used in “I call [noun]” (for instance bull****) and considerations with count nouns?
What's the origin of the common phrase “I call shenanigans”?Is the noun “faculty” countable?Difference between singular and countable nounsIs “leave of absence” a countable noun?“Doing such stunts ARE punishable” or “Doing such stunts IS punishable”?“I often buy fruit” vs “I often buy fruits”?Does English have any singularia tantum besides mass nouns?Can countable nouns become uncountable by usage?If a word comes with 'a' or 'an', does it mean it's a countable noun?Is “surroundings” a plural noun or a mass noun that just happens to take the form of a plural?Is “you have so many double standards” idiomatic and if not, why and what would be?
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Sometimes you hear people say something like "I call [noun]", mostly with bullshit ("I call bullshit"; and there's also a question on the site with shenanigans). It feels like an opinionated statement about a situation but I don't find it clear whether this is based on to call someone/something out, on to make a call (like when a referee makes a call in sports), on the idea that the person is naming (calling) what they see something (I call that (thing I'm seeing) [noun]) or even on the idea that someone is speaking their mind bluntly about something (maybe subsuming the expression call it as one sees it?).
Of course things like bullshit or white trashery are noncount whereas shenanigans is seemingly almost exclusively used in the plural form except when modifying a plural noun (for instance shenanigan tactics) or when identifying a list of things which might be called shenanigans (for instance shenanigan no 1). In so many words it's not clear whether the plural form used with "I call" is plural because it's mostly used in the plural form or because the construction is idiomatic with the plural form. So with a countable noun I wouldn't know for instance whether I should say "I call (a) double standard/standards" or if using an article with the singular form would make this ambiguous as if the expression was in fact the head of a sentence about some personal definition of a term (I call a double standard something that...).
- What meaning of (or phrase based on) to call is used in "I
call [noun]"? Is it useful to ascertain that or do you see each
example as a set construction with a noun that is not
really related to the core meaning of the verb: if so what does "I
call bullshit" mean? - When the noun is countable, which of the singular or the plural form
is more idiomatic and if it's used with the singular, is a determiner
required/possible; or is it just about usage: if so do you consider "I call double standard", "I call a double standard" and "I call double standards" equally idiomatic?
verbs phrase-usage colloquialisms countable-nouns
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Sometimes you hear people say something like "I call [noun]", mostly with bullshit ("I call bullshit"; and there's also a question on the site with shenanigans). It feels like an opinionated statement about a situation but I don't find it clear whether this is based on to call someone/something out, on to make a call (like when a referee makes a call in sports), on the idea that the person is naming (calling) what they see something (I call that (thing I'm seeing) [noun]) or even on the idea that someone is speaking their mind bluntly about something (maybe subsuming the expression call it as one sees it?).
Of course things like bullshit or white trashery are noncount whereas shenanigans is seemingly almost exclusively used in the plural form except when modifying a plural noun (for instance shenanigan tactics) or when identifying a list of things which might be called shenanigans (for instance shenanigan no 1). In so many words it's not clear whether the plural form used with "I call" is plural because it's mostly used in the plural form or because the construction is idiomatic with the plural form. So with a countable noun I wouldn't know for instance whether I should say "I call (a) double standard/standards" or if using an article with the singular form would make this ambiguous as if the expression was in fact the head of a sentence about some personal definition of a term (I call a double standard something that...).
- What meaning of (or phrase based on) to call is used in "I
call [noun]"? Is it useful to ascertain that or do you see each
example as a set construction with a noun that is not
really related to the core meaning of the verb: if so what does "I
call bullshit" mean? - When the noun is countable, which of the singular or the plural form
is more idiomatic and if it's used with the singular, is a determiner
required/possible; or is it just about usage: if so do you consider "I call double standard", "I call a double standard" and "I call double standards" equally idiomatic?
verbs phrase-usage colloquialisms countable-nouns
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There is no rule. Just pretend the thing called is an interjection in quotation mark. Sometimes you call a singular thing, and sometimes you call a plural thing. Whatever you would say if you were just shouting the thing is what you say you are "calling." In other words, translate "I call X" as "I would be shouting 'X' as a retort if the circumstances permitted."
– remarkl
Mar 6 at 22:44
@JugfeyceHinn I don't know how to answer that. All I can say is that I think you are over-analyzing. The construction "I call [noun] on" equals "I attach the label '[noun' to." Anything can be a label; the choice depends on what is idiomatic. I call double standard on that critique, but I call apples and oranges on that comparison. There is no issue of countability outside the label itself.
– remarkl
Mar 7 at 4:55
add a comment |
Sometimes you hear people say something like "I call [noun]", mostly with bullshit ("I call bullshit"; and there's also a question on the site with shenanigans). It feels like an opinionated statement about a situation but I don't find it clear whether this is based on to call someone/something out, on to make a call (like when a referee makes a call in sports), on the idea that the person is naming (calling) what they see something (I call that (thing I'm seeing) [noun]) or even on the idea that someone is speaking their mind bluntly about something (maybe subsuming the expression call it as one sees it?).
Of course things like bullshit or white trashery are noncount whereas shenanigans is seemingly almost exclusively used in the plural form except when modifying a plural noun (for instance shenanigan tactics) or when identifying a list of things which might be called shenanigans (for instance shenanigan no 1). In so many words it's not clear whether the plural form used with "I call" is plural because it's mostly used in the plural form or because the construction is idiomatic with the plural form. So with a countable noun I wouldn't know for instance whether I should say "I call (a) double standard/standards" or if using an article with the singular form would make this ambiguous as if the expression was in fact the head of a sentence about some personal definition of a term (I call a double standard something that...).
- What meaning of (or phrase based on) to call is used in "I
call [noun]"? Is it useful to ascertain that or do you see each
example as a set construction with a noun that is not
really related to the core meaning of the verb: if so what does "I
call bullshit" mean? - When the noun is countable, which of the singular or the plural form
is more idiomatic and if it's used with the singular, is a determiner
required/possible; or is it just about usage: if so do you consider "I call double standard", "I call a double standard" and "I call double standards" equally idiomatic?
verbs phrase-usage colloquialisms countable-nouns
asked Mar 6 at 21:37
Jurgfeyce HinnJurgfeyce Hinn
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Sometimes you hear people say something like "I call [noun]", mostly with bullshit ("I call bullshit"; and there's also a question on the site with shenanigans). It feels like an opinionated statement about a situation but I don't find it clear whether this is based on to call someone/something out, on to make a call (like when a referee makes a call in sports), on the idea that the person is naming (calling) what they see something (I call that (thing I'm seeing) [noun]) or even on the idea that someone is speaking their mind bluntly about something (maybe subsuming the expression call it as one sees it?).
Of course things like bullshit or white trashery are noncount whereas shenanigans is seemingly almost exclusively used in the plural form except when modifying a plural noun (for instance shenanigan tactics) or when identifying a list of things which might be called shenanigans (for instance shenanigan no 1). In so many words it's not clear whether the plural form used with "I call" is plural because it's mostly used in the plural form or because the construction is idiomatic with the plural form. So with a countable noun I wouldn't know for instance whether I should say "I call (a) double standard/standards" or if using an article with the singular form would make this ambiguous as if the expression was in fact the head of a sentence about some personal definition of a term (I call a double standard something that...).
- What meaning of (or phrase based on) to call is used in "I
call [noun]"? Is it useful to ascertain that or do you see each
example as a set construction with a noun that is not
really related to the core meaning of the verb: if so what does "I
call bullshit" mean? - When the noun is countable, which of the singular or the plural form
is more idiomatic and if it's used with the singular, is a determiner
required/possible; or is it just about usage: if so do you consider "I call double standard", "I call a double standard" and "I call double standards" equally idiomatic?
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There is no rule. Just pretend the thing called is an interjection in quotation mark. Sometimes you call a singular thing, and sometimes you call a plural thing. Whatever you would say if you were just shouting the thing is what you say you are "calling." In other words, translate "I call X" as "I would be shouting 'X' as a retort if the circumstances permitted."
– remarkl
Mar 6 at 22:44
@JugfeyceHinn I don't know how to answer that. All I can say is that I think you are over-analyzing. The construction "I call [noun] on" equals "I attach the label '[noun' to." Anything can be a label; the choice depends on what is idiomatic. I call double standard on that critique, but I call apples and oranges on that comparison. There is no issue of countability outside the label itself.
– remarkl
Mar 7 at 4:55
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There is no rule. Just pretend the thing called is an interjection in quotation mark. Sometimes you call a singular thing, and sometimes you call a plural thing. Whatever you would say if you were just shouting the thing is what you say you are "calling." In other words, translate "I call X" as "I would be shouting 'X' as a retort if the circumstances permitted."
– remarkl
Mar 6 at 22:44
@JugfeyceHinn I don't know how to answer that. All I can say is that I think you are over-analyzing. The construction "I call [noun] on" equals "I attach the label '[noun' to." Anything can be a label; the choice depends on what is idiomatic. I call double standard on that critique, but I call apples and oranges on that comparison. There is no issue of countability outside the label itself.
– remarkl
Mar 7 at 4:55
There is no rule. Just pretend the thing called is an interjection in quotation mark. Sometimes you call a singular thing, and sometimes you call a plural thing. Whatever you would say if you were just shouting the thing is what you say you are "calling." In other words, translate "I call X" as "I would be shouting 'X' as a retort if the circumstances permitted."
– remarkl
Mar 6 at 22:44
There is no rule. Just pretend the thing called is an interjection in quotation mark. Sometimes you call a singular thing, and sometimes you call a plural thing. Whatever you would say if you were just shouting the thing is what you say you are "calling." In other words, translate "I call X" as "I would be shouting 'X' as a retort if the circumstances permitted."
– remarkl
Mar 6 at 22:44
@JugfeyceHinn I don't know how to answer that. All I can say is that I think you are over-analyzing. The construction "I call [noun] on" equals "I attach the label '[noun' to." Anything can be a label; the choice depends on what is idiomatic. I call double standard on that critique, but I call apples and oranges on that comparison. There is no issue of countability outside the label itself.
– remarkl
Mar 7 at 4:55
@JugfeyceHinn I don't know how to answer that. All I can say is that I think you are over-analyzing. The construction "I call [noun] on" equals "I attach the label '[noun' to." Anything can be a label; the choice depends on what is idiomatic. I call double standard on that critique, but I call apples and oranges on that comparison. There is no issue of countability outside the label itself.
– remarkl
Mar 7 at 4:55
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To call in that usage means to announce a judgment on a particular action or circumstance, as one who is formally or informally recognized as having the authority to render such judgments in the domain in question.
I call foul!
The referee called the play dead.
The first example might be heard in an informal "pickup" (i.e. impromptu) game with no referee, where the player is recognized as having the "authority" to say that he has been fouled by another player.
The second example refers to a person, the referee, who is empowered to make such judgments.
The phrase can be used in circumstances not involving a game, treating those circumstances as if game rules applied to them, or at least wishing they did.
Perhaps something shouted by Mikey's younger brother whom Mikey is tormenting:
Mom! Mikey's says he is going to eat the last cookie which I was saving for my lunch tomorrow. I call foul!
In phrases like "I call bullshit" the speaker is being facetious and acting as if he is in the role of referee, and a violation of the Bullshit Rule has occurred.
answered Mar 6 at 22:01
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The single nouns in this usage (I call bullshit!) are a kind of shorthand, where the noun-label refers to a particular infraction.
– TRomano
Mar 6 at 22:12
A similar use of call is "I call time!" as a way to invoke a time out in an impromptu. informal game.
– Al Maki
Mar 7 at 3:48
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The construction
I call [noun] on
equals
I attach the label '[noun]' to.
Anything can be a label; the choice depends on what is idiomatic. Thus:
I call double standard on that critique
but
I call apples and oranges on that comparison.
There is no issue of countability outside the label itself.
answered Mar 7 at 5:32
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To call in that usage means to announce a judgment on a particular action or circumstance, as one who is formally or informally recognized as having the authority to render such judgments in the domain in question.
I call foul!
The referee called the play dead.
The first example might be heard in an informal "pickup" (i.e. impromptu) game with no referee, where the player is recognized as having the "authority" to say that he has been fouled by another player.
The second example refers to a person, the referee, who is empowered to make such judgments.
The phrase can be used in circumstances not involving a game, treating those circumstances as if game rules applied to them, or at least wishing they did.
Perhaps something shouted by Mikey's younger brother whom Mikey is tormenting:
Mom! Mikey's says he is going to eat the last cookie which I was saving for my lunch tomorrow. I call foul!
In phrases like "I call bullshit" the speaker is being facetious and acting as if he is in the role of referee, and a violation of the Bullshit Rule has occurred.
answered Mar 6 at 22:01
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The single nouns in this usage (I call bullshit!) are a kind of shorthand, where the noun-label refers to a particular infraction.
– TRomano
Mar 6 at 22:12
A similar use of call is "I call time!" as a way to invoke a time out in an impromptu. informal game.
– Al Maki
Mar 7 at 3:48
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To call in that usage means to announce a judgment on a particular action or circumstance, as one who is formally or informally recognized as having the authority to render such judgments in the domain in question.
I call foul!
The referee called the play dead.
The first example might be heard in an informal "pickup" (i.e. impromptu) game with no referee, where the player is recognized as having the "authority" to say that he has been fouled by another player.
The second example refers to a person, the referee, who is empowered to make such judgments.
The phrase can be used in circumstances not involving a game, treating those circumstances as if game rules applied to them, or at least wishing they did.
Perhaps something shouted by Mikey's younger brother whom Mikey is tormenting:
Mom! Mikey's says he is going to eat the last cookie which I was saving for my lunch tomorrow. I call foul!
In phrases like "I call bullshit" the speaker is being facetious and acting as if he is in the role of referee, and a violation of the Bullshit Rule has occurred.
answered Mar 6 at 22:01
TRomanoTRomano
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The single nouns in this usage (I call bullshit!) are a kind of shorthand, where the noun-label refers to a particular infraction.
– TRomano
Mar 6 at 22:12
A similar use of call is "I call time!" as a way to invoke a time out in an impromptu. informal game.
– Al Maki
Mar 7 at 3:48
add a comment |
To call in that usage means to announce a judgment on a particular action or circumstance, as one who is formally or informally recognized as having the authority to render such judgments in the domain in question.
I call foul!
The referee called the play dead.
The first example might be heard in an informal "pickup" (i.e. impromptu) game with no referee, where the player is recognized as having the "authority" to say that he has been fouled by another player.
The second example refers to a person, the referee, who is empowered to make such judgments.
The phrase can be used in circumstances not involving a game, treating those circumstances as if game rules applied to them, or at least wishing they did.
Perhaps something shouted by Mikey's younger brother whom Mikey is tormenting:
Mom! Mikey's says he is going to eat the last cookie which I was saving for my lunch tomorrow. I call foul!
In phrases like "I call bullshit" the speaker is being facetious and acting as if he is in the role of referee, and a violation of the Bullshit Rule has occurred.
answered Mar 6 at 22:01
TRomanoTRomano
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To call in that usage means to announce a judgment on a particular action or circumstance, as one who is formally or informally recognized as having the authority to render such judgments in the domain in question.
I call foul!
The referee called the play dead.
The first example might be heard in an informal "pickup" (i.e. impromptu) game with no referee, where the player is recognized as having the "authority" to say that he has been fouled by another player.
The second example refers to a person, the referee, who is empowered to make such judgments.
The phrase can be used in circumstances not involving a game, treating those circumstances as if game rules applied to them, or at least wishing they did.
Perhaps something shouted by Mikey's younger brother whom Mikey is tormenting:
Mom! Mikey's says he is going to eat the last cookie which I was saving for my lunch tomorrow. I call foul!
In phrases like "I call bullshit" the speaker is being facetious and acting as if he is in the role of referee, and a violation of the Bullshit Rule has occurred.
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The single nouns in this usage (I call bullshit!) are a kind of shorthand, where the noun-label refers to a particular infraction.
– TRomano
Mar 6 at 22:12
A similar use of call is "I call time!" as a way to invoke a time out in an impromptu. informal game.
– Al Maki
Mar 7 at 3:48
add a comment |
The single nouns in this usage (I call bullshit!) are a kind of shorthand, where the noun-label refers to a particular infraction.
– TRomano
Mar 6 at 22:12
A similar use of call is "I call time!" as a way to invoke a time out in an impromptu. informal game.
– Al Maki
Mar 7 at 3:48
The single nouns in this usage (I call bullshit!) are a kind of shorthand, where the noun-label refers to a particular infraction.
– TRomano
Mar 6 at 22:12
The single nouns in this usage (I call bullshit!) are a kind of shorthand, where the noun-label refers to a particular infraction.
– TRomano
Mar 6 at 22:12
A similar use of call is "I call time!" as a way to invoke a time out in an impromptu. informal game.
– Al Maki
Mar 7 at 3:48
A similar use of call is "I call time!" as a way to invoke a time out in an impromptu. informal game.
– Al Maki
Mar 7 at 3:48
add a comment |
The construction
I call [noun] on
equals
I attach the label '[noun]' to.
Anything can be a label; the choice depends on what is idiomatic. Thus:
I call double standard on that critique
but
I call apples and oranges on that comparison.
There is no issue of countability outside the label itself.
answered Mar 7 at 5:32
remarklremarkl
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The construction
I call [noun] on
equals
I attach the label '[noun]' to.
Anything can be a label; the choice depends on what is idiomatic. Thus:
I call double standard on that critique
but
I call apples and oranges on that comparison.
There is no issue of countability outside the label itself.
answered Mar 7 at 5:32
remarklremarkl
67419
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The construction
I call [noun] on
equals
I attach the label '[noun]' to.
Anything can be a label; the choice depends on what is idiomatic. Thus:
I call double standard on that critique
but
I call apples and oranges on that comparison.
There is no issue of countability outside the label itself.
answered Mar 7 at 5:32
remarklremarkl
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The construction
I call [noun] on
equals
I attach the label '[noun]' to.
Anything can be a label; the choice depends on what is idiomatic. Thus:
I call double standard on that critique
but
I call apples and oranges on that comparison.
There is no issue of countability outside the label itself.
answered Mar 7 at 5:32
remarklremarkl
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answered Mar 7 at 5:32
remarklremarkl
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There is no rule. Just pretend the thing called is an interjection in quotation mark. Sometimes you call a singular thing, and sometimes you call a plural thing. Whatever you would say if you were just shouting the thing is what you say you are "calling." In other words, translate "I call X" as "I would be shouting 'X' as a retort if the circumstances permitted."
– remarkl
Mar 6 at 22:44
@JugfeyceHinn I don't know how to answer that. All I can say is that I think you are over-analyzing. The construction "I call [noun] on" equals "I attach the label '[noun' to." Anything can be a label; the choice depends on what is idiomatic. I call double standard on that critique, but I call apples and oranges on that comparison. There is no issue of countability outside the label itself.
– remarkl
Mar 7 at 4:55