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Are there connotations of subtotals in the phrase “add up the total”?
Is there a connotational difference between “Reality” and “Actuality”?What is the origin/formal definitions of the phrase “pros and cons”?“In general,…”: do mathematicians use this phrase oppositely from everyone else?Is “pseudo” strictly negative?Does the word “seemingly” always have a negative connotation?Does “Delete” Have Negative Connotations?understanding 'your likeliest bet' and 'settle into' in contextIs meaning of “as they are” “already” in the?Meaning of precisely in this paragraphSingle word for a synonym with opposite connotation?
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Does the phrase "add up the total" typically have a connotation that, from the list of all the numbers being added, there are some particular subtotals that either have already been calculated or at least could in principle be calculated?
Or is the phrase often used in cases where there are no meaningful subtotals that one could be interested in calculating from the list of numbers?
phrase-meaning connotation
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Does the phrase "add up the total" typically have a connotation that, from the list of all the numbers being added, there are some particular subtotals that either have already been calculated or at least could in principle be calculated?
Or is the phrase often used in cases where there are no meaningful subtotals that one could be interested in calculating from the list of numbers?
phrase-meaning connotation
asked Jan 11 '18 at 15:53
Julian NewmanJulian Newman
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Are you trying to use 'add up the total' and are concerned about meanings that people will infer wrongly, or are you reading and wonder what the author meant?
– Mitch
Jan 11 '18 at 16:01
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'Add up the total' is a rather unexpected expression. The DO of 'add up' usually refers to the constituent parts (add up these numbers / add up all the payments you've made'. 'Add up the total' means 'Work out the total by doing the necessary addition calculations'. But there is no requirement that there are necessary or significant subtotals among the numbers being added. Artificially, there usually are: many people would total 17 + 55 + 83 via the subtotal 100.
– Edwin Ashworth
Jan 11 '18 at 16:01
Did you intend to write "add up the totals" (plural)?
– Lawrence
Jan 11 '18 at 16:02
@Tom22 'Unexpected' in the sense that it's a usage quite distinct from the usual 'Add up these figures / those numbers / these costs / the numbers attending ...'. The expression 'add up the total' is very common.
– Edwin Ashworth
Jan 11 '18 at 16:14
3
@EdwinAshworth As a veteran of the Accountancy profession I would say the word that is missing here is "grand total", which is the alternative measure to "sub-total", or "sub-sub-total". If there are no existing sub-totals in a list, there is no point in using "grand total". You can just ask "what's the total?" But when sub-totals appear, to make oneself clear, one needs to ask "What's the grand total?".
– WS2
Jan 11 '18 at 17:37
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Does the phrase "add up the total" typically have a connotation that, from the list of all the numbers being added, there are some particular subtotals that either have already been calculated or at least could in principle be calculated?
Or is the phrase often used in cases where there are no meaningful subtotals that one could be interested in calculating from the list of numbers?
phrase-meaning connotation
asked Jan 11 '18 at 15:53
Julian NewmanJulian Newman
101
Does the phrase "add up the total" typically have a connotation that, from the list of all the numbers being added, there are some particular subtotals that either have already been calculated or at least could in principle be calculated?
Or is the phrase often used in cases where there are no meaningful subtotals that one could be interested in calculating from the list of numbers?
phrase-meaning connotation
phrase-meaning connotation
asked Jan 11 '18 at 15:53
Julian NewmanJulian Newman
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asked Jan 11 '18 at 15:53
Julian NewmanJulian Newman
101
asked Jan 11 '18 at 15:53
Julian NewmanJulian Newman
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asked Jan 11 '18 at 15:53
Julian NewmanJulian Newman
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asked Jan 11 '18 at 15:53
Julian NewmanJulian Newman
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Are you trying to use 'add up the total' and are concerned about meanings that people will infer wrongly, or are you reading and wonder what the author meant?
– Mitch
Jan 11 '18 at 16:01
1
'Add up the total' is a rather unexpected expression. The DO of 'add up' usually refers to the constituent parts (add up these numbers / add up all the payments you've made'. 'Add up the total' means 'Work out the total by doing the necessary addition calculations'. But there is no requirement that there are necessary or significant subtotals among the numbers being added. Artificially, there usually are: many people would total 17 + 55 + 83 via the subtotal 100.
– Edwin Ashworth
Jan 11 '18 at 16:01
Did you intend to write "add up the totals" (plural)?
– Lawrence
Jan 11 '18 at 16:02
@Tom22 'Unexpected' in the sense that it's a usage quite distinct from the usual 'Add up these figures / those numbers / these costs / the numbers attending ...'. The expression 'add up the total' is very common.
– Edwin Ashworth
Jan 11 '18 at 16:14
3
@EdwinAshworth As a veteran of the Accountancy profession I would say the word that is missing here is "grand total", which is the alternative measure to "sub-total", or "sub-sub-total". If there are no existing sub-totals in a list, there is no point in using "grand total". You can just ask "what's the total?" But when sub-totals appear, to make oneself clear, one needs to ask "What's the grand total?".
– WS2
Jan 11 '18 at 17:37
|
show 5 more comments
Are you trying to use 'add up the total' and are concerned about meanings that people will infer wrongly, or are you reading and wonder what the author meant?
– Mitch
Jan 11 '18 at 16:01
1
'Add up the total' is a rather unexpected expression. The DO of 'add up' usually refers to the constituent parts (add up these numbers / add up all the payments you've made'. 'Add up the total' means 'Work out the total by doing the necessary addition calculations'. But there is no requirement that there are necessary or significant subtotals among the numbers being added. Artificially, there usually are: many people would total 17 + 55 + 83 via the subtotal 100.
– Edwin Ashworth
Jan 11 '18 at 16:01
Did you intend to write "add up the totals" (plural)?
– Lawrence
Jan 11 '18 at 16:02
@Tom22 'Unexpected' in the sense that it's a usage quite distinct from the usual 'Add up these figures / those numbers / these costs / the numbers attending ...'. The expression 'add up the total' is very common.
– Edwin Ashworth
Jan 11 '18 at 16:14
3
@EdwinAshworth As a veteran of the Accountancy profession I would say the word that is missing here is "grand total", which is the alternative measure to "sub-total", or "sub-sub-total". If there are no existing sub-totals in a list, there is no point in using "grand total". You can just ask "what's the total?" But when sub-totals appear, to make oneself clear, one needs to ask "What's the grand total?".
– WS2
Jan 11 '18 at 17:37
Are you trying to use 'add up the total' and are concerned about meanings that people will infer wrongly, or are you reading and wonder what the author meant?
– Mitch
Jan 11 '18 at 16:01
Are you trying to use 'add up the total' and are concerned about meanings that people will infer wrongly, or are you reading and wonder what the author meant?
– Mitch
Jan 11 '18 at 16:01
1
1
'Add up the total' is a rather unexpected expression. The DO of 'add up' usually refers to the constituent parts (add up these numbers / add up all the payments you've made'. 'Add up the total' means 'Work out the total by doing the necessary addition calculations'. But there is no requirement that there are necessary or significant subtotals among the numbers being added. Artificially, there usually are: many people would total 17 + 55 + 83 via the subtotal 100.
– Edwin Ashworth
Jan 11 '18 at 16:01
'Add up the total' is a rather unexpected expression. The DO of 'add up' usually refers to the constituent parts (add up these numbers / add up all the payments you've made'. 'Add up the total' means 'Work out the total by doing the necessary addition calculations'. But there is no requirement that there are necessary or significant subtotals among the numbers being added. Artificially, there usually are: many people would total 17 + 55 + 83 via the subtotal 100.
– Edwin Ashworth
Jan 11 '18 at 16:01
Did you intend to write "add up the totals" (plural)?
– Lawrence
Jan 11 '18 at 16:02
Did you intend to write "add up the totals" (plural)?
– Lawrence
Jan 11 '18 at 16:02
@Tom22 'Unexpected' in the sense that it's a usage quite distinct from the usual 'Add up these figures / those numbers / these costs / the numbers attending ...'. The expression 'add up the total' is very common.
– Edwin Ashworth
Jan 11 '18 at 16:14
@Tom22 'Unexpected' in the sense that it's a usage quite distinct from the usual 'Add up these figures / those numbers / these costs / the numbers attending ...'. The expression 'add up the total' is very common.
– Edwin Ashworth
Jan 11 '18 at 16:14
3
3
@EdwinAshworth As a veteran of the Accountancy profession I would say the word that is missing here is "grand total", which is the alternative measure to "sub-total", or "sub-sub-total". If there are no existing sub-totals in a list, there is no point in using "grand total". You can just ask "what's the total?" But when sub-totals appear, to make oneself clear, one needs to ask "What's the grand total?".
– WS2
Jan 11 '18 at 17:37
@EdwinAshworth As a veteran of the Accountancy profession I would say the word that is missing here is "grand total", which is the alternative measure to "sub-total", or "sub-sub-total". If there are no existing sub-totals in a list, there is no point in using "grand total". You can just ask "what's the total?" But when sub-totals appear, to make oneself clear, one needs to ask "What's the grand total?".
– WS2
Jan 11 '18 at 17:37
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Totals and subtotals are independent; one does not require the other, since they are operations involving lists. You can sum up the entire list or just a portion.
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Totals and subtotals are independent; one does not require the other, since they are operations involving lists. You can sum up the entire list or just a portion.
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Totals and subtotals are independent; one does not require the other, since they are operations involving lists. You can sum up the entire list or just a portion.
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Totals and subtotals are independent; one does not require the other, since they are operations involving lists. You can sum up the entire list or just a portion.
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Are you trying to use 'add up the total' and are concerned about meanings that people will infer wrongly, or are you reading and wonder what the author meant?
– Mitch
Jan 11 '18 at 16:01
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'Add up the total' is a rather unexpected expression. The DO of 'add up' usually refers to the constituent parts (add up these numbers / add up all the payments you've made'. 'Add up the total' means 'Work out the total by doing the necessary addition calculations'. But there is no requirement that there are necessary or significant subtotals among the numbers being added. Artificially, there usually are: many people would total 17 + 55 + 83 via the subtotal 100.
– Edwin Ashworth
Jan 11 '18 at 16:01
Did you intend to write "add up the totals" (plural)?
– Lawrence
Jan 11 '18 at 16:02
@Tom22 'Unexpected' in the sense that it's a usage quite distinct from the usual 'Add up these figures / those numbers / these costs / the numbers attending ...'. The expression 'add up the total' is very common.
– Edwin Ashworth
Jan 11 '18 at 16:14
3
@EdwinAshworth As a veteran of the Accountancy profession I would say the word that is missing here is "grand total", which is the alternative measure to "sub-total", or "sub-sub-total". If there are no existing sub-totals in a list, there is no point in using "grand total". You can just ask "what's the total?" But when sub-totals appear, to make oneself clear, one needs to ask "What's the grand total?".
– WS2
Jan 11 '18 at 17:37