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Is “All MEEMIES are SCREAMING” a Strong Collocation?



The Next CEO of Stack OverflowIs there a term for words that have a single meaning or are only used in a single context?“it took quite a lot of courage to..” What is the collocation?collocation with over, down, outLexical collocation of “former”A collocation meaning “one has anger”Is 'I speak to what… [+complement]' the same as 'I speak of/about… [+complement]'?Is “fast route” OK as a collocation?collocation for the noun “quote”Is there anything redundant about the collocation “discuss together”?Which adjectives are appropriate to describe a strong marriage?Collocation: Rates are large/small or high/low?










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Stormy Petrels:



According to this article Elliott Moreton categorize these specific group of words as "Stormy Petrels".




A stormy petrel, also known as a storm petrel, is an Atlantic seabird (also found in the Mediterranean). The term "stormy petrel" in general usage has come to refer to a harbinger of trouble; perhaps people believed that the bird was seen just before a storm. Sometime in the late '80s, Elliott Moreton came up with a category of words which can't be used except in the company of specific other words; having heard the word "petrel" only in the company of the word "stormy," he decided to call such items "stormy petrels." As it happens, there is such a thing as a petrel which isn't stormy, but the term was a catchy one so it stuck.




Examples of Stormy Petrels:



  1. All MEEMIES are SCREAMING


  2. All DURANCE is VILE


  3. All RECRIMINATIONS are BITTER


Note: In example 3, the word recriminations do occur alone. Example taken from Oxford dictionary:




Meaning of Recriminations: An accusation in response to one from someone else.




Usage: "there are no tears, no recriminations."





Strong Collocation:




Strong collocations are when particular words can collocate with very few words. These two words are usually fixed and restricted.




Examples of Strong Collocation(Check strong collocation):



  1. Curly Hair


  2. Whisk an egg


So, what is the difference between "Stormy Petrels" and "Strong Collocation"? Or Are "Stormy Petrels" nothing, but "Strong Collocation"?










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    Since we can say "curly fries" and "curly straw" and "whisk someone off their feet" and "whisk the batter," those clearly aren't stormy petrels. I mean, those are just examples I came up with off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many, many more. That would indicate to me that a "strong collocation" is just words that are very often used together, meaning they have a strong relationship, but not an exclusive relationship like with stormy petrels such that they never appear without the other.

    – Benjamin Harman
    2 days ago












  • Related

    – Robusto
    2 days ago











  • @BenjaminHarman I guess, it is more to do with words appearing in conjunction with each other than appearing alone. That is, either you will find "MEEMIES" and "SCREAMING" together or one of the word (in this case: Meemies) will never appear in conjunction with some other word, right?

    – Ubi hatt
    2 days ago











  • In the UK, we have abdabs that are screaming.

    – Michael Harvey
    2 days ago











  • Benjamin Harman - "I'm sure there are many, many more.". I had curly kale today.

    – Michael Harvey
    2 days ago















1















Stormy Petrels:



According to this article Elliott Moreton categorize these specific group of words as "Stormy Petrels".




A stormy petrel, also known as a storm petrel, is an Atlantic seabird (also found in the Mediterranean). The term "stormy petrel" in general usage has come to refer to a harbinger of trouble; perhaps people believed that the bird was seen just before a storm. Sometime in the late '80s, Elliott Moreton came up with a category of words which can't be used except in the company of specific other words; having heard the word "petrel" only in the company of the word "stormy," he decided to call such items "stormy petrels." As it happens, there is such a thing as a petrel which isn't stormy, but the term was a catchy one so it stuck.




Examples of Stormy Petrels:



  1. All MEEMIES are SCREAMING


  2. All DURANCE is VILE


  3. All RECRIMINATIONS are BITTER


Note: In example 3, the word recriminations do occur alone. Example taken from Oxford dictionary:




Meaning of Recriminations: An accusation in response to one from someone else.




Usage: "there are no tears, no recriminations."





Strong Collocation:




Strong collocations are when particular words can collocate with very few words. These two words are usually fixed and restricted.




Examples of Strong Collocation(Check strong collocation):



  1. Curly Hair


  2. Whisk an egg


So, what is the difference between "Stormy Petrels" and "Strong Collocation"? Or Are "Stormy Petrels" nothing, but "Strong Collocation"?










share|improve this question



















  • 3





    Since we can say "curly fries" and "curly straw" and "whisk someone off their feet" and "whisk the batter," those clearly aren't stormy petrels. I mean, those are just examples I came up with off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many, many more. That would indicate to me that a "strong collocation" is just words that are very often used together, meaning they have a strong relationship, but not an exclusive relationship like with stormy petrels such that they never appear without the other.

    – Benjamin Harman
    2 days ago












  • Related

    – Robusto
    2 days ago











  • @BenjaminHarman I guess, it is more to do with words appearing in conjunction with each other than appearing alone. That is, either you will find "MEEMIES" and "SCREAMING" together or one of the word (in this case: Meemies) will never appear in conjunction with some other word, right?

    – Ubi hatt
    2 days ago











  • In the UK, we have abdabs that are screaming.

    – Michael Harvey
    2 days ago











  • Benjamin Harman - "I'm sure there are many, many more.". I had curly kale today.

    – Michael Harvey
    2 days ago













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Stormy Petrels:



According to this article Elliott Moreton categorize these specific group of words as "Stormy Petrels".




A stormy petrel, also known as a storm petrel, is an Atlantic seabird (also found in the Mediterranean). The term "stormy petrel" in general usage has come to refer to a harbinger of trouble; perhaps people believed that the bird was seen just before a storm. Sometime in the late '80s, Elliott Moreton came up with a category of words which can't be used except in the company of specific other words; having heard the word "petrel" only in the company of the word "stormy," he decided to call such items "stormy petrels." As it happens, there is such a thing as a petrel which isn't stormy, but the term was a catchy one so it stuck.




Examples of Stormy Petrels:



  1. All MEEMIES are SCREAMING


  2. All DURANCE is VILE


  3. All RECRIMINATIONS are BITTER


Note: In example 3, the word recriminations do occur alone. Example taken from Oxford dictionary:




Meaning of Recriminations: An accusation in response to one from someone else.




Usage: "there are no tears, no recriminations."





Strong Collocation:




Strong collocations are when particular words can collocate with very few words. These two words are usually fixed and restricted.




Examples of Strong Collocation(Check strong collocation):



  1. Curly Hair


  2. Whisk an egg


So, what is the difference between "Stormy Petrels" and "Strong Collocation"? Or Are "Stormy Petrels" nothing, but "Strong Collocation"?










share|improve this question
















Stormy Petrels:



According to this article Elliott Moreton categorize these specific group of words as "Stormy Petrels".




A stormy petrel, also known as a storm petrel, is an Atlantic seabird (also found in the Mediterranean). The term "stormy petrel" in general usage has come to refer to a harbinger of trouble; perhaps people believed that the bird was seen just before a storm. Sometime in the late '80s, Elliott Moreton came up with a category of words which can't be used except in the company of specific other words; having heard the word "petrel" only in the company of the word "stormy," he decided to call such items "stormy petrels." As it happens, there is such a thing as a petrel which isn't stormy, but the term was a catchy one so it stuck.




Examples of Stormy Petrels:



  1. All MEEMIES are SCREAMING


  2. All DURANCE is VILE


  3. All RECRIMINATIONS are BITTER


Note: In example 3, the word recriminations do occur alone. Example taken from Oxford dictionary:




Meaning of Recriminations: An accusation in response to one from someone else.




Usage: "there are no tears, no recriminations."





Strong Collocation:




Strong collocations are when particular words can collocate with very few words. These two words are usually fixed and restricted.




Examples of Strong Collocation(Check strong collocation):



  1. Curly Hair


  2. Whisk an egg


So, what is the difference between "Stormy Petrels" and "Strong Collocation"? Or Are "Stormy Petrels" nothing, but "Strong Collocation"?







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  • 3





    Since we can say "curly fries" and "curly straw" and "whisk someone off their feet" and "whisk the batter," those clearly aren't stormy petrels. I mean, those are just examples I came up with off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many, many more. That would indicate to me that a "strong collocation" is just words that are very often used together, meaning they have a strong relationship, but not an exclusive relationship like with stormy petrels such that they never appear without the other.

    – Benjamin Harman
    2 days ago












  • Related

    – Robusto
    2 days ago











  • @BenjaminHarman I guess, it is more to do with words appearing in conjunction with each other than appearing alone. That is, either you will find "MEEMIES" and "SCREAMING" together or one of the word (in this case: Meemies) will never appear in conjunction with some other word, right?

    – Ubi hatt
    2 days ago











  • In the UK, we have abdabs that are screaming.

    – Michael Harvey
    2 days ago











  • Benjamin Harman - "I'm sure there are many, many more.". I had curly kale today.

    – Michael Harvey
    2 days ago












  • 3





    Since we can say "curly fries" and "curly straw" and "whisk someone off their feet" and "whisk the batter," those clearly aren't stormy petrels. I mean, those are just examples I came up with off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many, many more. That would indicate to me that a "strong collocation" is just words that are very often used together, meaning they have a strong relationship, but not an exclusive relationship like with stormy petrels such that they never appear without the other.

    – Benjamin Harman
    2 days ago












  • Related

    – Robusto
    2 days ago











  • @BenjaminHarman I guess, it is more to do with words appearing in conjunction with each other than appearing alone. That is, either you will find "MEEMIES" and "SCREAMING" together or one of the word (in this case: Meemies) will never appear in conjunction with some other word, right?

    – Ubi hatt
    2 days ago











  • In the UK, we have abdabs that are screaming.

    – Michael Harvey
    2 days ago











  • Benjamin Harman - "I'm sure there are many, many more.". I had curly kale today.

    – Michael Harvey
    2 days ago







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3





Since we can say "curly fries" and "curly straw" and "whisk someone off their feet" and "whisk the batter," those clearly aren't stormy petrels. I mean, those are just examples I came up with off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many, many more. That would indicate to me that a "strong collocation" is just words that are very often used together, meaning they have a strong relationship, but not an exclusive relationship like with stormy petrels such that they never appear without the other.

– Benjamin Harman
2 days ago






Since we can say "curly fries" and "curly straw" and "whisk someone off their feet" and "whisk the batter," those clearly aren't stormy petrels. I mean, those are just examples I came up with off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many, many more. That would indicate to me that a "strong collocation" is just words that are very often used together, meaning they have a strong relationship, but not an exclusive relationship like with stormy petrels such that they never appear without the other.

– Benjamin Harman
2 days ago














Related

– Robusto
2 days ago





Related

– Robusto
2 days ago













@BenjaminHarman I guess, it is more to do with words appearing in conjunction with each other than appearing alone. That is, either you will find "MEEMIES" and "SCREAMING" together or one of the word (in this case: Meemies) will never appear in conjunction with some other word, right?

– Ubi hatt
2 days ago





@BenjaminHarman I guess, it is more to do with words appearing in conjunction with each other than appearing alone. That is, either you will find "MEEMIES" and "SCREAMING" together or one of the word (in this case: Meemies) will never appear in conjunction with some other word, right?

– Ubi hatt
2 days ago













In the UK, we have abdabs that are screaming.

– Michael Harvey
2 days ago





In the UK, we have abdabs that are screaming.

– Michael Harvey
2 days ago













Benjamin Harman - "I'm sure there are many, many more.". I had curly kale today.

– Michael Harvey
2 days ago





Benjamin Harman - "I'm sure there are many, many more.". I had curly kale today.

– Michael Harvey
2 days ago










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Not all meemies are screaming:




noun



US slang



1 In plural With the. Originally: a state of
drunkenness, delirium tremens. In later use:
hysterics. Usually in "to have (also get) the
screaming meemies".



2 A hysterical person. rare.




oxforddictionaries.com



I have occasionally read/heard "meemies" used without "screaming".






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  • the Oxford example you used also contains "Screaming meemies" :/ Secondly, my question is "what is the difference between "Stormy Petrels" and "Strong Collocation"? Or Are "Stormy Petrels" nothing, but "Strong Collocation?"

    – Ubi hatt
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  • In other words, "screaming meemies" is a strong collocation but isn't a stormy petrel :-)

    – Chappo
    11 mins ago











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Not all meemies are screaming:




noun



US slang



1 In plural With the. Originally: a state of
drunkenness, delirium tremens. In later use:
hysterics. Usually in "to have (also get) the
screaming meemies".



2 A hysterical person. rare.




oxforddictionaries.com



I have occasionally read/heard "meemies" used without "screaming".






share|improve this answer























  • the Oxford example you used also contains "Screaming meemies" :/ Secondly, my question is "what is the difference between "Stormy Petrels" and "Strong Collocation"? Or Are "Stormy Petrels" nothing, but "Strong Collocation?"

    – Ubi hatt
    57 mins ago











  • In other words, "screaming meemies" is a strong collocation but isn't a stormy petrel :-)

    – Chappo
    11 mins ago















0














Not all meemies are screaming:




noun



US slang



1 In plural With the. Originally: a state of
drunkenness, delirium tremens. In later use:
hysterics. Usually in "to have (also get) the
screaming meemies".



2 A hysterical person. rare.




oxforddictionaries.com



I have occasionally read/heard "meemies" used without "screaming".






share|improve this answer























  • the Oxford example you used also contains "Screaming meemies" :/ Secondly, my question is "what is the difference between "Stormy Petrels" and "Strong Collocation"? Or Are "Stormy Petrels" nothing, but "Strong Collocation?"

    – Ubi hatt
    57 mins ago











  • In other words, "screaming meemies" is a strong collocation but isn't a stormy petrel :-)

    – Chappo
    11 mins ago













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Not all meemies are screaming:




noun



US slang



1 In plural With the. Originally: a state of
drunkenness, delirium tremens. In later use:
hysterics. Usually in "to have (also get) the
screaming meemies".



2 A hysterical person. rare.




oxforddictionaries.com



I have occasionally read/heard "meemies" used without "screaming".






share|improve this answer













Not all meemies are screaming:




noun



US slang



1 In plural With the. Originally: a state of
drunkenness, delirium tremens. In later use:
hysterics. Usually in "to have (also get) the
screaming meemies".



2 A hysterical person. rare.




oxforddictionaries.com



I have occasionally read/heard "meemies" used without "screaming".







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  • the Oxford example you used also contains "Screaming meemies" :/ Secondly, my question is "what is the difference between "Stormy Petrels" and "Strong Collocation"? Or Are "Stormy Petrels" nothing, but "Strong Collocation?"

    – Ubi hatt
    57 mins ago











  • In other words, "screaming meemies" is a strong collocation but isn't a stormy petrel :-)

    – Chappo
    11 mins ago

















  • the Oxford example you used also contains "Screaming meemies" :/ Secondly, my question is "what is the difference between "Stormy Petrels" and "Strong Collocation"? Or Are "Stormy Petrels" nothing, but "Strong Collocation?"

    – Ubi hatt
    57 mins ago











  • In other words, "screaming meemies" is a strong collocation but isn't a stormy petrel :-)

    – Chappo
    11 mins ago
















the Oxford example you used also contains "Screaming meemies" :/ Secondly, my question is "what is the difference between "Stormy Petrels" and "Strong Collocation"? Or Are "Stormy Petrels" nothing, but "Strong Collocation?"

– Ubi hatt
57 mins ago





the Oxford example you used also contains "Screaming meemies" :/ Secondly, my question is "what is the difference between "Stormy Petrels" and "Strong Collocation"? Or Are "Stormy Petrels" nothing, but "Strong Collocation?"

– Ubi hatt
57 mins ago













In other words, "screaming meemies" is a strong collocation but isn't a stormy petrel :-)

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In other words, "screaming meemies" is a strong collocation but isn't a stormy petrel :-)

– Chappo
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