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Recently I had a vision of a colossal underwater bird-like figure.



I would describe it as follows:



  • Roughly the wingspan of the length of a blue whale

  • Snow-white

  • Typical shape and feathering of a bird of prey (I may have mistaken something else for feathers)

  • Gliding into the depth, probably in the mesopelagic/twilight zone

Since such a creature couldn't possibly be an actual bird, unlike the aqua-bird, what is my giant mid-sea bird?










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    The wingspan of a blue whale... in the length or in the breadth of the whale?
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    – L.Dutch
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    @L.Dutch The wingspan of the creature is roughly the length of a blue whale.
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    – A Lambent Eye
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    @cobaltduck The light may have tricked my eye into thinking they were feathers...
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    – A Lambent Eye
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    "During the Late Eocene and the Early Oligocene (40–30 mya), some lineages of gigantic penguins existed. Nordenskjoeld's giant penguin (Anthropornis nordenskjoeldi) was the tallest, growing nearly 1.80 meters (5.9 feet) tall. The New Zealand giant penguin (Pachydyptes ponderosus) was probably the heaviest, weighing 80 kg or more. Both were found on New Zealand, the former also in the Antarctic farther eastwards." (Wikipedia, s.v. Pinguin)
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$begingroup$


Recently I had a vision of a colossal underwater bird-like figure.



I would describe it as follows:



  • Roughly the wingspan of the length of a blue whale

  • Snow-white

  • Typical shape and feathering of a bird of prey (I may have mistaken something else for feathers)

  • Gliding into the depth, probably in the mesopelagic/twilight zone

Since such a creature couldn't possibly be an actual bird, unlike the aqua-bird, what is my giant mid-sea bird?










share|improve this question











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    The wingspan of a blue whale... in the length or in the breadth of the whale?
    $endgroup$
    – L.Dutch
    11 hours ago






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    $begingroup$
    @L.Dutch The wingspan of the creature is roughly the length of a blue whale.
    $endgroup$
    – A Lambent Eye
    10 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @cobaltduck The light may have tricked my eye into thinking they were feathers...
    $endgroup$
    – A Lambent Eye
    10 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    "During the Late Eocene and the Early Oligocene (40–30 mya), some lineages of gigantic penguins existed. Nordenskjoeld's giant penguin (Anthropornis nordenskjoeldi) was the tallest, growing nearly 1.80 meters (5.9 feet) tall. The New Zealand giant penguin (Pachydyptes ponderosus) was probably the heaviest, weighing 80 kg or more. Both were found on New Zealand, the former also in the Antarctic farther eastwards." (Wikipedia, s.v. Pinguin)
    $endgroup$
    – AlexP
    3 hours ago














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Recently I had a vision of a colossal underwater bird-like figure.



I would describe it as follows:



  • Roughly the wingspan of the length of a blue whale

  • Snow-white

  • Typical shape and feathering of a bird of prey (I may have mistaken something else for feathers)

  • Gliding into the depth, probably in the mesopelagic/twilight zone

Since such a creature couldn't possibly be an actual bird, unlike the aqua-bird, what is my giant mid-sea bird?










share|improve this question











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Recently I had a vision of a colossal underwater bird-like figure.



I would describe it as follows:



  • Roughly the wingspan of the length of a blue whale

  • Snow-white

  • Typical shape and feathering of a bird of prey (I may have mistaken something else for feathers)

  • Gliding into the depth, probably in the mesopelagic/twilight zone

Since such a creature couldn't possibly be an actual bird, unlike the aqua-bird, what is my giant mid-sea bird?







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    The wingspan of a blue whale... in the length or in the breadth of the whale?
    $endgroup$
    – L.Dutch
    11 hours ago






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    @L.Dutch The wingspan of the creature is roughly the length of a blue whale.
    $endgroup$
    – A Lambent Eye
    10 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @cobaltduck The light may have tricked my eye into thinking they were feathers...
    $endgroup$
    – A Lambent Eye
    10 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    "During the Late Eocene and the Early Oligocene (40–30 mya), some lineages of gigantic penguins existed. Nordenskjoeld's giant penguin (Anthropornis nordenskjoeldi) was the tallest, growing nearly 1.80 meters (5.9 feet) tall. The New Zealand giant penguin (Pachydyptes ponderosus) was probably the heaviest, weighing 80 kg or more. Both were found on New Zealand, the former also in the Antarctic farther eastwards." (Wikipedia, s.v. Pinguin)
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    – AlexP
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    $begingroup$
    The wingspan of a blue whale... in the length or in the breadth of the whale?
    $endgroup$
    – L.Dutch
    11 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @L.Dutch The wingspan of the creature is roughly the length of a blue whale.
    $endgroup$
    – A Lambent Eye
    10 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @cobaltduck The light may have tricked my eye into thinking they were feathers...
    $endgroup$
    – A Lambent Eye
    10 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    "During the Late Eocene and the Early Oligocene (40–30 mya), some lineages of gigantic penguins existed. Nordenskjoeld's giant penguin (Anthropornis nordenskjoeldi) was the tallest, growing nearly 1.80 meters (5.9 feet) tall. The New Zealand giant penguin (Pachydyptes ponderosus) was probably the heaviest, weighing 80 kg or more. Both were found on New Zealand, the former also in the Antarctic farther eastwards." (Wikipedia, s.v. Pinguin)
    $endgroup$
    – AlexP
    3 hours ago








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The wingspan of a blue whale... in the length or in the breadth of the whale?
$endgroup$
– L.Dutch
11 hours ago




$begingroup$
The wingspan of a blue whale... in the length or in the breadth of the whale?
$endgroup$
– L.Dutch
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@L.Dutch The wingspan of the creature is roughly the length of a blue whale.
$endgroup$
– A Lambent Eye
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@L.Dutch The wingspan of the creature is roughly the length of a blue whale.
$endgroup$
– A Lambent Eye
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@cobaltduck The light may have tricked my eye into thinking they were feathers...
$endgroup$
– A Lambent Eye
10 hours ago




$begingroup$
@cobaltduck The light may have tricked my eye into thinking they were feathers...
$endgroup$
– A Lambent Eye
10 hours ago












$begingroup$
"During the Late Eocene and the Early Oligocene (40–30 mya), some lineages of gigantic penguins existed. Nordenskjoeld's giant penguin (Anthropornis nordenskjoeldi) was the tallest, growing nearly 1.80 meters (5.9 feet) tall. The New Zealand giant penguin (Pachydyptes ponderosus) was probably the heaviest, weighing 80 kg or more. Both were found on New Zealand, the former also in the Antarctic farther eastwards." (Wikipedia, s.v. Pinguin)
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– AlexP
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"During the Late Eocene and the Early Oligocene (40–30 mya), some lineages of gigantic penguins existed. Nordenskjoeld's giant penguin (Anthropornis nordenskjoeldi) was the tallest, growing nearly 1.80 meters (5.9 feet) tall. The New Zealand giant penguin (Pachydyptes ponderosus) was probably the heaviest, weighing 80 kg or more. Both were found on New Zealand, the former also in the Antarctic farther eastwards." (Wikipedia, s.v. Pinguin)
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Let's start with something in the Real World (TM), then try to see whether we can manipulate its future evolution into your creature. The thing I have in mind is the humble gannet, birds of the Morus genus. As seen in this article at Media Drum World, when these birds feed, they spend quite a bit of time swimming to a bit of depth, and do so quite adeptly.



enter image description here



We begin with two-out-of-four of your features already in place: Snow-white, and typical shape and feathering of a bird of prey. We just need to figure out how to grow it much, much larger, and get it to abandon its life in the skies and greatly increase its diving depth. How? The usual evolutionary pressures: eat, don't get eaten, make more of your kind (i.e. sex).



As the fish dive deeper to escape, the mega-gannet must follow. But now the sharks, which already compete with the gannet at the bait ball, have a better chance to pick them off along side the fish. Time to get larger, too large for a shark to swallow. This will eventually make it too large to fly. Alongside this, the mega-gannet will probably become swifter at swimming. I'm uncertain whether the mega-gannet might develop a blubber layer, or if feathers can adapt to provide cold-water protection (penguins, for example, have both). Finally, those mega-gannet which are most successful at eating and not getting eaten will also be more successful at breeding, and these traits will augment in each generation.



Given the right circumstances and a few million years, anything can happen.






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    change in bone density and muscular structure. The change in medium the bird moves through would require different physiological changes. Penguins and chickens have a higher bone density, so its not unheard of for that adaptation to occur in birds.
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It's for sure the notorious Pinguinus Humongous.



It's a descendant from penguins, which, instead of feeding on small fishes, decided to go big and hunt for dolphins and other large sea mammals.



Its size is necessary for hunting those preys, and the feathers come from its ancestors being birds adapted to the sea environment.






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    Pinguinus, not Penguinus. And they are auks, not penguins. Otherwise it's fine. If you want penguins, that would likely be a descendant of Anthropornis, possibly Dinanthropornis colossicus.
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Except for the feathers, your creature is rather like a manta ray: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manta_ray



So convergent evolution is your friend here. Just as the demands of hydrodynamics cause sharks, tuna, dolphins, and ichthyosaurs to all look much the same to a casual eye, your mesopelagic bird is descended from penguins that evolved into occupying the same environmental niche as manta.






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    Giant nudibranch.



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    These are ocean animals. They swim slowly along as I imagine your creature might. They can have a vaguely avian outline as seen here.



    Known nudibranchs of course do not get to the size you want, but maybe they could. The molluscan body plan can scale up. Squids get big.






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      Let's start with something in the Real World (TM), then try to see whether we can manipulate its future evolution into your creature. The thing I have in mind is the humble gannet, birds of the Morus genus. As seen in this article at Media Drum World, when these birds feed, they spend quite a bit of time swimming to a bit of depth, and do so quite adeptly.



      enter image description here



      We begin with two-out-of-four of your features already in place: Snow-white, and typical shape and feathering of a bird of prey. We just need to figure out how to grow it much, much larger, and get it to abandon its life in the skies and greatly increase its diving depth. How? The usual evolutionary pressures: eat, don't get eaten, make more of your kind (i.e. sex).



      As the fish dive deeper to escape, the mega-gannet must follow. But now the sharks, which already compete with the gannet at the bait ball, have a better chance to pick them off along side the fish. Time to get larger, too large for a shark to swallow. This will eventually make it too large to fly. Alongside this, the mega-gannet will probably become swifter at swimming. I'm uncertain whether the mega-gannet might develop a blubber layer, or if feathers can adapt to provide cold-water protection (penguins, for example, have both). Finally, those mega-gannet which are most successful at eating and not getting eaten will also be more successful at breeding, and these traits will augment in each generation.



      Given the right circumstances and a few million years, anything can happen.






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        change in bone density and muscular structure. The change in medium the bird moves through would require different physiological changes. Penguins and chickens have a higher bone density, so its not unheard of for that adaptation to occur in birds.
        $endgroup$
        – Sonvar
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      7












      $begingroup$

      Let's start with something in the Real World (TM), then try to see whether we can manipulate its future evolution into your creature. The thing I have in mind is the humble gannet, birds of the Morus genus. As seen in this article at Media Drum World, when these birds feed, they spend quite a bit of time swimming to a bit of depth, and do so quite adeptly.



      enter image description here



      We begin with two-out-of-four of your features already in place: Snow-white, and typical shape and feathering of a bird of prey. We just need to figure out how to grow it much, much larger, and get it to abandon its life in the skies and greatly increase its diving depth. How? The usual evolutionary pressures: eat, don't get eaten, make more of your kind (i.e. sex).



      As the fish dive deeper to escape, the mega-gannet must follow. But now the sharks, which already compete with the gannet at the bait ball, have a better chance to pick them off along side the fish. Time to get larger, too large for a shark to swallow. This will eventually make it too large to fly. Alongside this, the mega-gannet will probably become swifter at swimming. I'm uncertain whether the mega-gannet might develop a blubber layer, or if feathers can adapt to provide cold-water protection (penguins, for example, have both). Finally, those mega-gannet which are most successful at eating and not getting eaten will also be more successful at breeding, and these traits will augment in each generation.



      Given the right circumstances and a few million years, anything can happen.






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      • $begingroup$
        change in bone density and muscular structure. The change in medium the bird moves through would require different physiological changes. Penguins and chickens have a higher bone density, so its not unheard of for that adaptation to occur in birds.
        $endgroup$
        – Sonvar
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      $begingroup$

      Let's start with something in the Real World (TM), then try to see whether we can manipulate its future evolution into your creature. The thing I have in mind is the humble gannet, birds of the Morus genus. As seen in this article at Media Drum World, when these birds feed, they spend quite a bit of time swimming to a bit of depth, and do so quite adeptly.



      enter image description here



      We begin with two-out-of-four of your features already in place: Snow-white, and typical shape and feathering of a bird of prey. We just need to figure out how to grow it much, much larger, and get it to abandon its life in the skies and greatly increase its diving depth. How? The usual evolutionary pressures: eat, don't get eaten, make more of your kind (i.e. sex).



      As the fish dive deeper to escape, the mega-gannet must follow. But now the sharks, which already compete with the gannet at the bait ball, have a better chance to pick them off along side the fish. Time to get larger, too large for a shark to swallow. This will eventually make it too large to fly. Alongside this, the mega-gannet will probably become swifter at swimming. I'm uncertain whether the mega-gannet might develop a blubber layer, or if feathers can adapt to provide cold-water protection (penguins, for example, have both). Finally, those mega-gannet which are most successful at eating and not getting eaten will also be more successful at breeding, and these traits will augment in each generation.



      Given the right circumstances and a few million years, anything can happen.






      share|improve this answer











      $endgroup$



      Let's start with something in the Real World (TM), then try to see whether we can manipulate its future evolution into your creature. The thing I have in mind is the humble gannet, birds of the Morus genus. As seen in this article at Media Drum World, when these birds feed, they spend quite a bit of time swimming to a bit of depth, and do so quite adeptly.



      enter image description here



      We begin with two-out-of-four of your features already in place: Snow-white, and typical shape and feathering of a bird of prey. We just need to figure out how to grow it much, much larger, and get it to abandon its life in the skies and greatly increase its diving depth. How? The usual evolutionary pressures: eat, don't get eaten, make more of your kind (i.e. sex).



      As the fish dive deeper to escape, the mega-gannet must follow. But now the sharks, which already compete with the gannet at the bait ball, have a better chance to pick them off along side the fish. Time to get larger, too large for a shark to swallow. This will eventually make it too large to fly. Alongside this, the mega-gannet will probably become swifter at swimming. I'm uncertain whether the mega-gannet might develop a blubber layer, or if feathers can adapt to provide cold-water protection (penguins, for example, have both). Finally, those mega-gannet which are most successful at eating and not getting eaten will also be more successful at breeding, and these traits will augment in each generation.



      Given the right circumstances and a few million years, anything can happen.







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      • $begingroup$
        change in bone density and muscular structure. The change in medium the bird moves through would require different physiological changes. Penguins and chickens have a higher bone density, so its not unheard of for that adaptation to occur in birds.
        $endgroup$
        – Sonvar
        19 mins ago
















      • $begingroup$
        change in bone density and muscular structure. The change in medium the bird moves through would require different physiological changes. Penguins and chickens have a higher bone density, so its not unheard of for that adaptation to occur in birds.
        $endgroup$
        – Sonvar
        19 mins ago















      $begingroup$
      change in bone density and muscular structure. The change in medium the bird moves through would require different physiological changes. Penguins and chickens have a higher bone density, so its not unheard of for that adaptation to occur in birds.
      $endgroup$
      – Sonvar
      19 mins ago




      $begingroup$
      change in bone density and muscular structure. The change in medium the bird moves through would require different physiological changes. Penguins and chickens have a higher bone density, so its not unheard of for that adaptation to occur in birds.
      $endgroup$
      – Sonvar
      19 mins ago











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      It's for sure the notorious Pinguinus Humongous.



      It's a descendant from penguins, which, instead of feeding on small fishes, decided to go big and hunt for dolphins and other large sea mammals.



      Its size is necessary for hunting those preys, and the feathers come from its ancestors being birds adapted to the sea environment.






      share|improve this answer











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      • $begingroup$
        Pinguinus, not Penguinus. And they are auks, not penguins. Otherwise it's fine. If you want penguins, that would likely be a descendant of Anthropornis, possibly Dinanthropornis colossicus.
        $endgroup$
        – AlexP
        3 hours ago
















      7












      $begingroup$

      It's for sure the notorious Pinguinus Humongous.



      It's a descendant from penguins, which, instead of feeding on small fishes, decided to go big and hunt for dolphins and other large sea mammals.



      Its size is necessary for hunting those preys, and the feathers come from its ancestors being birds adapted to the sea environment.






      share|improve this answer











      $endgroup$












      • $begingroup$
        Pinguinus, not Penguinus. And they are auks, not penguins. Otherwise it's fine. If you want penguins, that would likely be a descendant of Anthropornis, possibly Dinanthropornis colossicus.
        $endgroup$
        – AlexP
        3 hours ago














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      $begingroup$

      It's for sure the notorious Pinguinus Humongous.



      It's a descendant from penguins, which, instead of feeding on small fishes, decided to go big and hunt for dolphins and other large sea mammals.



      Its size is necessary for hunting those preys, and the feathers come from its ancestors being birds adapted to the sea environment.






      share|improve this answer











      $endgroup$



      It's for sure the notorious Pinguinus Humongous.



      It's a descendant from penguins, which, instead of feeding on small fishes, decided to go big and hunt for dolphins and other large sea mammals.



      Its size is necessary for hunting those preys, and the feathers come from its ancestors being birds adapted to the sea environment.







      share|improve this answer














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      • $begingroup$
        Pinguinus, not Penguinus. And they are auks, not penguins. Otherwise it's fine. If you want penguins, that would likely be a descendant of Anthropornis, possibly Dinanthropornis colossicus.
        $endgroup$
        – AlexP
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      • $begingroup$
        Pinguinus, not Penguinus. And they are auks, not penguins. Otherwise it's fine. If you want penguins, that would likely be a descendant of Anthropornis, possibly Dinanthropornis colossicus.
        $endgroup$
        – AlexP
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      Pinguinus, not Penguinus. And they are auks, not penguins. Otherwise it's fine. If you want penguins, that would likely be a descendant of Anthropornis, possibly Dinanthropornis colossicus.
      $endgroup$
      – AlexP
      3 hours ago





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      Pinguinus, not Penguinus. And they are auks, not penguins. Otherwise it's fine. If you want penguins, that would likely be a descendant of Anthropornis, possibly Dinanthropornis colossicus.
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      – AlexP
      3 hours ago












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      Except for the feathers, your creature is rather like a manta ray: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manta_ray



      So convergent evolution is your friend here. Just as the demands of hydrodynamics cause sharks, tuna, dolphins, and ichthyosaurs to all look much the same to a casual eye, your mesopelagic bird is descended from penguins that evolved into occupying the same environmental niche as manta.






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        Except for the feathers, your creature is rather like a manta ray: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manta_ray



        So convergent evolution is your friend here. Just as the demands of hydrodynamics cause sharks, tuna, dolphins, and ichthyosaurs to all look much the same to a casual eye, your mesopelagic bird is descended from penguins that evolved into occupying the same environmental niche as manta.






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          Except for the feathers, your creature is rather like a manta ray: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manta_ray



          So convergent evolution is your friend here. Just as the demands of hydrodynamics cause sharks, tuna, dolphins, and ichthyosaurs to all look much the same to a casual eye, your mesopelagic bird is descended from penguins that evolved into occupying the same environmental niche as manta.






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          Except for the feathers, your creature is rather like a manta ray: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manta_ray



          So convergent evolution is your friend here. Just as the demands of hydrodynamics cause sharks, tuna, dolphins, and ichthyosaurs to all look much the same to a casual eye, your mesopelagic bird is descended from penguins that evolved into occupying the same environmental niche as manta.







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              Giant nudibranch.



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              These are ocean animals. They swim slowly along as I imagine your creature might. They can have a vaguely avian outline as seen here.



              Known nudibranchs of course do not get to the size you want, but maybe they could. The molluscan body plan can scale up. Squids get big.






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                Giant nudibranch.



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                These are ocean animals. They swim slowly along as I imagine your creature might. They can have a vaguely avian outline as seen here.



                Known nudibranchs of course do not get to the size you want, but maybe they could. The molluscan body plan can scale up. Squids get big.






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                  Giant nudibranch.



                  nudibranch
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                  These are ocean animals. They swim slowly along as I imagine your creature might. They can have a vaguely avian outline as seen here.



                  Known nudibranchs of course do not get to the size you want, but maybe they could. The molluscan body plan can scale up. Squids get big.






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                  Giant nudibranch.



                  nudibranch
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                  These are ocean animals. They swim slowly along as I imagine your creature might. They can have a vaguely avian outline as seen here.



                  Known nudibranchs of course do not get to the size you want, but maybe they could. The molluscan body plan can scale up. Squids get big.







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