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Cardinal or ordinal number for the name of the school
The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InProfessors and StudentsSomething about the name of “Designer Baby” not quite right to me“Force” vs. “enforce” vs. “compel” vs. “obligate” vs. “oblige”Is “every… doesn't…” really the same thing as “not every…”?Twice vs Two TimesUnsure on the pronouns/verbs/tense to use hereBudget spending vs budget expenditure''Having you is happy for me'' VS ''Having you makes me happy''Certified vs Certificated“A lengthy accounting of what took place” vs. “a lengthy account of what took place”
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The offcial name of the school up to this day has been: Tallinn School No 21. Does it sound correct and formal Br Eng?
Now it has been proposed that it should be Tallinn 21st School. Is there a difference? For us it sounds wrong because the ordinal number refers to ranking or order, doesn’t it?
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The offcial name of the school up to this day has been: Tallinn School No 21. Does it sound correct and formal Br Eng?
Now it has been proposed that it should be Tallinn 21st School. Is there a difference? For us it sounds wrong because the ordinal number refers to ranking or order, doesn’t it?
word-choice
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Merle TeeverMerle Teever
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I don't think that anybody will read that as the 21st best school (ie, that there are 20 better ones), if that is your point. If anything, people may think that is was the 21st school to be established in Tallinn. (Which is what I would think, although I can imagine the number having come about in a different way. Maybe it had number 21 in some plans. Or got arbitrarily number 21 when they thought of numbering schools.)
– Keep these mind
Mar 11 at 16:56
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No. 21 is better than 21st. For reference, in New York public schools are abbreviated as PS and have numbers, which is not unlike the system you have, for example PS 157, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Rusty Core
Mar 11 at 18:46
Standard rules do not necessarily apply to names & titles. Tallinn is in Estonia (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallinn_School_No._21), so why should British English rules apply? Finally, any answer to you question will be primarily an opinion, rather than based on rules of grammar, and therefore the question is off-topic on this site.
– TrevorD
Mar 12 at 0:12
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The offcial name of the school up to this day has been: Tallinn School No 21. Does it sound correct and formal Br Eng?
Now it has been proposed that it should be Tallinn 21st School. Is there a difference? For us it sounds wrong because the ordinal number refers to ranking or order, doesn’t it?
word-choice
asked Mar 11 at 16:45
Merle TeeverMerle Teever
1
The offcial name of the school up to this day has been: Tallinn School No 21. Does it sound correct and formal Br Eng?
Now it has been proposed that it should be Tallinn 21st School. Is there a difference? For us it sounds wrong because the ordinal number refers to ranking or order, doesn’t it?
word-choice
word-choice
asked Mar 11 at 16:45
Merle TeeverMerle Teever
1
asked Mar 11 at 16:45
Merle TeeverMerle Teever
1
asked Mar 11 at 16:45
Merle TeeverMerle Teever
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asked Mar 11 at 16:45
Merle TeeverMerle Teever
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asked Mar 11 at 16:45
Merle TeeverMerle Teever
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I don't think that anybody will read that as the 21st best school (ie, that there are 20 better ones), if that is your point. If anything, people may think that is was the 21st school to be established in Tallinn. (Which is what I would think, although I can imagine the number having come about in a different way. Maybe it had number 21 in some plans. Or got arbitrarily number 21 when they thought of numbering schools.)
– Keep these mind
Mar 11 at 16:56
3
No. 21 is better than 21st. For reference, in New York public schools are abbreviated as PS and have numbers, which is not unlike the system you have, for example PS 157, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Rusty Core
Mar 11 at 18:46
Standard rules do not necessarily apply to names & titles. Tallinn is in Estonia (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallinn_School_No._21), so why should British English rules apply? Finally, any answer to you question will be primarily an opinion, rather than based on rules of grammar, and therefore the question is off-topic on this site.
– TrevorD
Mar 12 at 0:12
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I don't think that anybody will read that as the 21st best school (ie, that there are 20 better ones), if that is your point. If anything, people may think that is was the 21st school to be established in Tallinn. (Which is what I would think, although I can imagine the number having come about in a different way. Maybe it had number 21 in some plans. Or got arbitrarily number 21 when they thought of numbering schools.)
– Keep these mind
Mar 11 at 16:56
3
No. 21 is better than 21st. For reference, in New York public schools are abbreviated as PS and have numbers, which is not unlike the system you have, for example PS 157, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Rusty Core
Mar 11 at 18:46
Standard rules do not necessarily apply to names & titles. Tallinn is in Estonia (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallinn_School_No._21), so why should British English rules apply? Finally, any answer to you question will be primarily an opinion, rather than based on rules of grammar, and therefore the question is off-topic on this site.
– TrevorD
Mar 12 at 0:12
1
1
I don't think that anybody will read that as the 21st best school (ie, that there are 20 better ones), if that is your point. If anything, people may think that is was the 21st school to be established in Tallinn. (Which is what I would think, although I can imagine the number having come about in a different way. Maybe it had number 21 in some plans. Or got arbitrarily number 21 when they thought of numbering schools.)
– Keep these mind
Mar 11 at 16:56
I don't think that anybody will read that as the 21st best school (ie, that there are 20 better ones), if that is your point. If anything, people may think that is was the 21st school to be established in Tallinn. (Which is what I would think, although I can imagine the number having come about in a different way. Maybe it had number 21 in some plans. Or got arbitrarily number 21 when they thought of numbering schools.)
– Keep these mind
Mar 11 at 16:56
3
3
No. 21 is better than 21st. For reference, in New York public schools are abbreviated as PS and have numbers, which is not unlike the system you have, for example PS 157, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Rusty Core
Mar 11 at 18:46
No. 21 is better than 21st. For reference, in New York public schools are abbreviated as PS and have numbers, which is not unlike the system you have, for example PS 157, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Rusty Core
Mar 11 at 18:46
Standard rules do not necessarily apply to names & titles. Tallinn is in Estonia (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallinn_School_No._21), so why should British English rules apply? Finally, any answer to you question will be primarily an opinion, rather than based on rules of grammar, and therefore the question is off-topic on this site.
– TrevorD
Mar 12 at 0:12
Standard rules do not necessarily apply to names & titles. Tallinn is in Estonia (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallinn_School_No._21), so why should British English rules apply? Finally, any answer to you question will be primarily an opinion, rather than based on rules of grammar, and therefore the question is off-topic on this site.
– TrevorD
Mar 12 at 0:12
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There is no one right answer. When translating we usually try to copy the original. I have never heard of an ordinal being used in this context in a translation from any language.
But if you did want to use an ordinal, 21st Tallinn School is the standard English grammar since we mean the 21st of all the Tallinn schools not the Tallinn school amongst all the 21st schools.
This is what we see when we do use ordinals in this sort of situation, e.g. for military units.
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There is no one right answer. When translating we usually try to copy the original. I have never heard of an ordinal being used in this context in a translation from any language.
But if you did want to use an ordinal, 21st Tallinn School is the standard English grammar since we mean the 21st of all the Tallinn schools not the Tallinn school amongst all the 21st schools.
This is what we see when we do use ordinals in this sort of situation, e.g. for military units.
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There is no one right answer. When translating we usually try to copy the original. I have never heard of an ordinal being used in this context in a translation from any language.
But if you did want to use an ordinal, 21st Tallinn School is the standard English grammar since we mean the 21st of all the Tallinn schools not the Tallinn school amongst all the 21st schools.
This is what we see when we do use ordinals in this sort of situation, e.g. for military units.
answered Mar 11 at 23:19
David RobinsonDavid Robinson
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There is no one right answer. When translating we usually try to copy the original. I have never heard of an ordinal being used in this context in a translation from any language.
But if you did want to use an ordinal, 21st Tallinn School is the standard English grammar since we mean the 21st of all the Tallinn schools not the Tallinn school amongst all the 21st schools.
This is what we see when we do use ordinals in this sort of situation, e.g. for military units.
answered Mar 11 at 23:19
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There is no one right answer. When translating we usually try to copy the original. I have never heard of an ordinal being used in this context in a translation from any language.
But if you did want to use an ordinal, 21st Tallinn School is the standard English grammar since we mean the 21st of all the Tallinn schools not the Tallinn school amongst all the 21st schools.
This is what we see when we do use ordinals in this sort of situation, e.g. for military units.
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I don't think that anybody will read that as the 21st best school (ie, that there are 20 better ones), if that is your point. If anything, people may think that is was the 21st school to be established in Tallinn. (Which is what I would think, although I can imagine the number having come about in a different way. Maybe it had number 21 in some plans. Or got arbitrarily number 21 when they thought of numbering schools.)
– Keep these mind
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No. 21 is better than 21st. For reference, in New York public schools are abbreviated as PS and have numbers, which is not unlike the system you have, for example PS 157, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Rusty Core
Mar 11 at 18:46
Standard rules do not necessarily apply to names & titles. Tallinn is in Estonia (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallinn_School_No._21), so why should British English rules apply? Finally, any answer to you question will be primarily an opinion, rather than based on rules of grammar, and therefore the question is off-topic on this site.
– TrevorD
Mar 12 at 0:12