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Do you put a comma after an introductory clause if it's a part of a dependent clause?
The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InWHY should I put comma after a dependent clause?Dependent clause, phrases, and fragmentsDependent clause after pronounCommas with nested subordinate clauses both of which are restrictive (essential to the meaning)If you want to have a series within an opening dependent clause, how should it be punctuated?When subjects of dependent clause and independent clause will be same?Can a comma be put before but if it starts a dependent clause?Comma after nonrestrictive adverbial (dependent) clause at the end of the sentenceDependent clause w/list *comma or semicolon* followed by independent clauseHow to use Commas When an Introductory Clause Precedes a Dependent/Subordinate Clause
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E.g.
I knew that although he had a problem we could still work through it.
` OR
I knew that although he had a problem, we could still work through it.
Usually, when using conjunctive adverbs, I've always put a comma there, but it looks strange to me with a relative dependent clause, and now I'm rethinking the whole thing.
I knew because although we wanted to work through it, it wasn't working.
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E.g.
I knew that although he had a problem we could still work through it.
` OR
I knew that although he had a problem, we could still work through it.
Usually, when using conjunctive adverbs, I've always put a comma there, but it looks strange to me with a relative dependent clause, and now I'm rethinking the whole thing.
I knew because although we wanted to work through it, it wasn't working.
relative-clauses dependent-clause
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Commas mark intonation curves, not grammar. If you hear it, use it; if not, don't.
– John Lawler
5 hours ago
Hi, Toss, and welcome to EL&U. Notice that I edited your Q to use block quotes. It is preferred here, rather than markdown. You can always roll back if you do not like it.
– Cascabel
5 hours ago
Sorry to say so, Mr Lawler, but I disagree with you completely. Very often the presence or absence of a comma changes the grammar and therefore potentially the meaning of a sentence. Clarifying meaning through indicating grammar is the primary function of the comma (well, that and lists). Using them to mark intonation curves is a decorative application of them which can and does result in miscommunication.
– EditingFrank
2 hours ago
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E.g.
I knew that although he had a problem we could still work through it.
` OR
I knew that although he had a problem, we could still work through it.
Usually, when using conjunctive adverbs, I've always put a comma there, but it looks strange to me with a relative dependent clause, and now I'm rethinking the whole thing.
I knew because although we wanted to work through it, it wasn't working.
relative-clauses dependent-clause
edited 5 hours ago
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asked 5 hours ago
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E.g.
I knew that although he had a problem we could still work through it.
` OR
I knew that although he had a problem, we could still work through it.
Usually, when using conjunctive adverbs, I've always put a comma there, but it looks strange to me with a relative dependent clause, and now I'm rethinking the whole thing.
I knew because although we wanted to work through it, it wasn't working.
relative-clauses dependent-clause
relative-clauses dependent-clause
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Commas mark intonation curves, not grammar. If you hear it, use it; if not, don't.
– John Lawler
5 hours ago
Hi, Toss, and welcome to EL&U. Notice that I edited your Q to use block quotes. It is preferred here, rather than markdown. You can always roll back if you do not like it.
– Cascabel
5 hours ago
Sorry to say so, Mr Lawler, but I disagree with you completely. Very often the presence or absence of a comma changes the grammar and therefore potentially the meaning of a sentence. Clarifying meaning through indicating grammar is the primary function of the comma (well, that and lists). Using them to mark intonation curves is a decorative application of them which can and does result in miscommunication.
– EditingFrank
2 hours ago
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Commas mark intonation curves, not grammar. If you hear it, use it; if not, don't.
– John Lawler
5 hours ago
Hi, Toss, and welcome to EL&U. Notice that I edited your Q to use block quotes. It is preferred here, rather than markdown. You can always roll back if you do not like it.
– Cascabel
5 hours ago
Sorry to say so, Mr Lawler, but I disagree with you completely. Very often the presence or absence of a comma changes the grammar and therefore potentially the meaning of a sentence. Clarifying meaning through indicating grammar is the primary function of the comma (well, that and lists). Using them to mark intonation curves is a decorative application of them which can and does result in miscommunication.
– EditingFrank
2 hours ago
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Commas mark intonation curves, not grammar. If you hear it, use it; if not, don't.
– John Lawler
5 hours ago
Commas mark intonation curves, not grammar. If you hear it, use it; if not, don't.
– John Lawler
5 hours ago
Hi, Toss, and welcome to EL&U. Notice that I edited your Q to use block quotes. It is preferred here, rather than markdown. You can always roll back if you do not like it.
– Cascabel
5 hours ago
Hi, Toss, and welcome to EL&U. Notice that I edited your Q to use block quotes. It is preferred here, rather than markdown. You can always roll back if you do not like it.
– Cascabel
5 hours ago
Sorry to say so, Mr Lawler, but I disagree with you completely. Very often the presence or absence of a comma changes the grammar and therefore potentially the meaning of a sentence. Clarifying meaning through indicating grammar is the primary function of the comma (well, that and lists). Using them to mark intonation curves is a decorative application of them which can and does result in miscommunication.
– EditingFrank
2 hours ago
Sorry to say so, Mr Lawler, but I disagree with you completely. Very often the presence or absence of a comma changes the grammar and therefore potentially the meaning of a sentence. Clarifying meaning through indicating grammar is the primary function of the comma (well, that and lists). Using them to mark intonation curves is a decorative application of them which can and does result in miscommunication.
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In your example, you don't actually have three clauses. Your primary sentence is "I knew that we could still work through it."
"...although he had a problem..." is the only secondary clause in the example. You could put it at the beginning or the end of the sentence, or in the middle as you did. It needs to be demarcated by commas, wherever you put it. If you put it in the middle, as you did, you need two commas. So it should really be:
I knew that, although he had a problem, we could still work through it.
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In your example, you don't actually have three clauses. Your primary sentence is "I knew that we could still work through it."
"...although he had a problem..." is the only secondary clause in the example. You could put it at the beginning or the end of the sentence, or in the middle as you did. It needs to be demarcated by commas, wherever you put it. If you put it in the middle, as you did, you need two commas. So it should really be:
I knew that, although he had a problem, we could still work through it.
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In your example, you don't actually have three clauses. Your primary sentence is "I knew that we could still work through it."
"...although he had a problem..." is the only secondary clause in the example. You could put it at the beginning or the end of the sentence, or in the middle as you did. It needs to be demarcated by commas, wherever you put it. If you put it in the middle, as you did, you need two commas. So it should really be:
I knew that, although he had a problem, we could still work through it.
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In your example, you don't actually have three clauses. Your primary sentence is "I knew that we could still work through it."
"...although he had a problem..." is the only secondary clause in the example. You could put it at the beginning or the end of the sentence, or in the middle as you did. It needs to be demarcated by commas, wherever you put it. If you put it in the middle, as you did, you need two commas. So it should really be:
I knew that, although he had a problem, we could still work through it.
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In your example, you don't actually have three clauses. Your primary sentence is "I knew that we could still work through it."
"...although he had a problem..." is the only secondary clause in the example. You could put it at the beginning or the end of the sentence, or in the middle as you did. It needs to be demarcated by commas, wherever you put it. If you put it in the middle, as you did, you need two commas. So it should really be:
I knew that, although he had a problem, we could still work through it.
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Commas mark intonation curves, not grammar. If you hear it, use it; if not, don't.
– John Lawler
5 hours ago
Hi, Toss, and welcome to EL&U. Notice that I edited your Q to use block quotes. It is preferred here, rather than markdown. You can always roll back if you do not like it.
– Cascabel
5 hours ago
Sorry to say so, Mr Lawler, but I disagree with you completely. Very often the presence or absence of a comma changes the grammar and therefore potentially the meaning of a sentence. Clarifying meaning through indicating grammar is the primary function of the comma (well, that and lists). Using them to mark intonation curves is a decorative application of them which can and does result in miscommunication.
– EditingFrank
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