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“might” vs “might have” in a narrative set in the past



The Next CEO of Stack OverflowAre “might” and “should” past tenses of “may” and “shall”, respectively?Unreal situation in the pastDropping the 'have' before a past participlePast vs. perfect in present-tense narrativeUsing “must have” in the past“In the past” or “Into the past”?Do you ever use 'is' in a past tense narrative?could past perfect tense and present perfect tense coexist in a compound sentence. Please do not mark as duplicate if you have not read the questionPast continuous 'have been'is/are + past participle vs. have been + past particple










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The men kept walking well into the night, because if it rained the
next day, they might not [reach / have reached] the village before the
enemy arrived. At around midnight, they came to a clearing a few
miles west of the village and finally decided to set up camp for the
night.




Which would you choose in this context, "reach" or "have reached"?



A colleague of mine insists that "have reached" is the only correct option because the sentence refers to a possibility in the past and that "might" can only refer to the present (e.g. "He might be a mathematician.")



In contrast, another colleague argues "reach" should be chosen because "have reached" is only reserved for situations where something happened before the point of reference (e.g. "The doctor suspected that the patient might have taken an overdose of the medication.")



I would tend to agree with the first ("reach") but I am not completely sure.



Thanks.










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  • Note that it doesn’t say, “because if it had rained the next day”...

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  • @Jim That's the point I was trying to get at. If the preceding clause is "if it had rained the next day," "might have" would be the only choice. Which would you choose in the context above?

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  • I’d match tense with “if it rained” and choose “might not reach”

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The men kept walking well into the night, because if it rained the
next day, they might not [reach / have reached] the village before the
enemy arrived. At around midnight, they came to a clearing a few
miles west of the village and finally decided to set up camp for the
night.




Which would you choose in this context, "reach" or "have reached"?



A colleague of mine insists that "have reached" is the only correct option because the sentence refers to a possibility in the past and that "might" can only refer to the present (e.g. "He might be a mathematician.")



In contrast, another colleague argues "reach" should be chosen because "have reached" is only reserved for situations where something happened before the point of reference (e.g. "The doctor suspected that the patient might have taken an overdose of the medication.")



I would tend to agree with the first ("reach") but I am not completely sure.



Thanks.










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  • Note that it doesn’t say, “because if it had rained the next day”...

    – Jim
    Feb 26 at 16:33











  • @Jim That's the point I was trying to get at. If the preceding clause is "if it had rained the next day," "might have" would be the only choice. Which would you choose in the context above?

    – Barouche
    Feb 27 at 16:02











  • I’d match tense with “if it rained” and choose “might not reach”

    – Jim
    Feb 27 at 16:05













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The men kept walking well into the night, because if it rained the
next day, they might not [reach / have reached] the village before the
enemy arrived. At around midnight, they came to a clearing a few
miles west of the village and finally decided to set up camp for the
night.




Which would you choose in this context, "reach" or "have reached"?



A colleague of mine insists that "have reached" is the only correct option because the sentence refers to a possibility in the past and that "might" can only refer to the present (e.g. "He might be a mathematician.")



In contrast, another colleague argues "reach" should be chosen because "have reached" is only reserved for situations where something happened before the point of reference (e.g. "The doctor suspected that the patient might have taken an overdose of the medication.")



I would tend to agree with the first ("reach") but I am not completely sure.



Thanks.










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The men kept walking well into the night, because if it rained the
next day, they might not [reach / have reached] the village before the
enemy arrived. At around midnight, they came to a clearing a few
miles west of the village and finally decided to set up camp for the
night.




Which would you choose in this context, "reach" or "have reached"?



A colleague of mine insists that "have reached" is the only correct option because the sentence refers to a possibility in the past and that "might" can only refer to the present (e.g. "He might be a mathematician.")



In contrast, another colleague argues "reach" should be chosen because "have reached" is only reserved for situations where something happened before the point of reference (e.g. "The doctor suspected that the patient might have taken an overdose of the medication.")



I would tend to agree with the first ("reach") but I am not completely sure.



Thanks.







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  • Note that it doesn’t say, “because if it had rained the next day”...

    – Jim
    Feb 26 at 16:33











  • @Jim That's the point I was trying to get at. If the preceding clause is "if it had rained the next day," "might have" would be the only choice. Which would you choose in the context above?

    – Barouche
    Feb 27 at 16:02











  • I’d match tense with “if it rained” and choose “might not reach”

    – Jim
    Feb 27 at 16:05

















  • Note that it doesn’t say, “because if it had rained the next day”...

    – Jim
    Feb 26 at 16:33











  • @Jim That's the point I was trying to get at. If the preceding clause is "if it had rained the next day," "might have" would be the only choice. Which would you choose in the context above?

    – Barouche
    Feb 27 at 16:02











  • I’d match tense with “if it rained” and choose “might not reach”

    – Jim
    Feb 27 at 16:05
















Note that it doesn’t say, “because if it had rained the next day”...

– Jim
Feb 26 at 16:33





Note that it doesn’t say, “because if it had rained the next day”...

– Jim
Feb 26 at 16:33













@Jim That's the point I was trying to get at. If the preceding clause is "if it had rained the next day," "might have" would be the only choice. Which would you choose in the context above?

– Barouche
Feb 27 at 16:02





@Jim That's the point I was trying to get at. If the preceding clause is "if it had rained the next day," "might have" would be the only choice. Which would you choose in the context above?

– Barouche
Feb 27 at 16:02













I’d match tense with “if it rained” and choose “might not reach”

– Jim
Feb 27 at 16:05





I’d match tense with “if it rained” and choose “might not reach”

– Jim
Feb 27 at 16:05










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I would personally not have written "might/might have" in that context, because it would sound a lot more natural if you changed it to



"Because if it rained the next day, they wouldn't reach the village before the enemy arrived."






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    IMO “might not have reached” is the correct choice of the two, as it reflects the past tense in agreement with the context of the sentence.






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          I would personally not have written "might/might have" in that context, because it would sound a lot more natural if you changed it to



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              IMO “might not have reached” is the correct choice of the two, as it reflects the past tense in agreement with the context of the sentence.






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