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How do Cot-Cought merged Americans perceive ɔ in foreign languages (Open-mid back rounded vowel)


Why are almost all vowels pronounced “i” in New Zealand English?Do “hull” and “full” rhyme?— rules for “short U” sounds before LHow is “gone” pronounced?Does the indefinite article “an” apply to vowel sounds from foreign languages?Can you hear the difference between 'Writer' and 'Rider'? Why?What source explains the different pronunciations of “hol” in “alcohol” and “hollow”?Why does written English have more variations in pronunciation than other languages?How to write Spanish Vowel sounds into English?What are the names of the two phonetic changes in this sentence?Why is Indian English usually rhotic?






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Languages like German, Bulgarian and (according to Wikipedia) Portuguese have both an /ɔ/ as in "thought" and an /a/ vowel. When hearing and trying to speak these languages, what would a Cot-cought merged american without any special pronunciation skills do with these sounds and to which vowels in the american phonology would they be "mapped" to? For example in German:



Doch vs. Dach










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  • What are "special pronunciation skills"?

    – Juhasz
    38 mins ago











  • Are you asking us to guess how those words are pronounced based off the spelling or something else? If you’re not then you should provide a link to a clip of these words being pronounced.

    – Laurel
    30 mins ago











  • First, the vowel of cot isn't /a/ but /ɑ/. For languages with both /ɑ/ and /ɔ/, it may depend on how they pronounce the merged cot-caught sound in English. Not all people with the cot-caught merger pronounce the words the same way.

    – Peter Shor
    27 mins ago












  • Individual skills in pronouncing foreign sounds and words vary all over the multi-dimensional spectrum. There is no such thing as "an American with the cot/caught merger"; everybody is different. Some folks just slide right over to native phonetics while others never get close when they come on novel sounds as adults. If you really want to know, experiment. But pick a large n.

    – John Lawler
    6 mins ago

















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Languages like German, Bulgarian and (according to Wikipedia) Portuguese have both an /ɔ/ as in "thought" and an /a/ vowel. When hearing and trying to speak these languages, what would a Cot-cought merged american without any special pronunciation skills do with these sounds and to which vowels in the american phonology would they be "mapped" to? For example in German:



Doch vs. Dach










share|improve this question






















  • What are "special pronunciation skills"?

    – Juhasz
    38 mins ago











  • Are you asking us to guess how those words are pronounced based off the spelling or something else? If you’re not then you should provide a link to a clip of these words being pronounced.

    – Laurel
    30 mins ago











  • First, the vowel of cot isn't /a/ but /ɑ/. For languages with both /ɑ/ and /ɔ/, it may depend on how they pronounce the merged cot-caught sound in English. Not all people with the cot-caught merger pronounce the words the same way.

    – Peter Shor
    27 mins ago












  • Individual skills in pronouncing foreign sounds and words vary all over the multi-dimensional spectrum. There is no such thing as "an American with the cot/caught merger"; everybody is different. Some folks just slide right over to native phonetics while others never get close when they come on novel sounds as adults. If you really want to know, experiment. But pick a large n.

    – John Lawler
    6 mins ago













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Languages like German, Bulgarian and (according to Wikipedia) Portuguese have both an /ɔ/ as in "thought" and an /a/ vowel. When hearing and trying to speak these languages, what would a Cot-cought merged american without any special pronunciation skills do with these sounds and to which vowels in the american phonology would they be "mapped" to? For example in German:



Doch vs. Dach










share|improve this question














Languages like German, Bulgarian and (according to Wikipedia) Portuguese have both an /ɔ/ as in "thought" and an /a/ vowel. When hearing and trying to speak these languages, what would a Cot-cought merged american without any special pronunciation skills do with these sounds and to which vowels in the american phonology would they be "mapped" to? For example in German:



Doch vs. Dach







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  • What are "special pronunciation skills"?

    – Juhasz
    38 mins ago











  • Are you asking us to guess how those words are pronounced based off the spelling or something else? If you’re not then you should provide a link to a clip of these words being pronounced.

    – Laurel
    30 mins ago











  • First, the vowel of cot isn't /a/ but /ɑ/. For languages with both /ɑ/ and /ɔ/, it may depend on how they pronounce the merged cot-caught sound in English. Not all people with the cot-caught merger pronounce the words the same way.

    – Peter Shor
    27 mins ago












  • Individual skills in pronouncing foreign sounds and words vary all over the multi-dimensional spectrum. There is no such thing as "an American with the cot/caught merger"; everybody is different. Some folks just slide right over to native phonetics while others never get close when they come on novel sounds as adults. If you really want to know, experiment. But pick a large n.

    – John Lawler
    6 mins ago

















  • What are "special pronunciation skills"?

    – Juhasz
    38 mins ago











  • Are you asking us to guess how those words are pronounced based off the spelling or something else? If you’re not then you should provide a link to a clip of these words being pronounced.

    – Laurel
    30 mins ago











  • First, the vowel of cot isn't /a/ but /ɑ/. For languages with both /ɑ/ and /ɔ/, it may depend on how they pronounce the merged cot-caught sound in English. Not all people with the cot-caught merger pronounce the words the same way.

    – Peter Shor
    27 mins ago












  • Individual skills in pronouncing foreign sounds and words vary all over the multi-dimensional spectrum. There is no such thing as "an American with the cot/caught merger"; everybody is different. Some folks just slide right over to native phonetics while others never get close when they come on novel sounds as adults. If you really want to know, experiment. But pick a large n.

    – John Lawler
    6 mins ago
















What are "special pronunciation skills"?

– Juhasz
38 mins ago





What are "special pronunciation skills"?

– Juhasz
38 mins ago













Are you asking us to guess how those words are pronounced based off the spelling or something else? If you’re not then you should provide a link to a clip of these words being pronounced.

– Laurel
30 mins ago





Are you asking us to guess how those words are pronounced based off the spelling or something else? If you’re not then you should provide a link to a clip of these words being pronounced.

– Laurel
30 mins ago













First, the vowel of cot isn't /a/ but /ɑ/. For languages with both /ɑ/ and /ɔ/, it may depend on how they pronounce the merged cot-caught sound in English. Not all people with the cot-caught merger pronounce the words the same way.

– Peter Shor
27 mins ago






First, the vowel of cot isn't /a/ but /ɑ/. For languages with both /ɑ/ and /ɔ/, it may depend on how they pronounce the merged cot-caught sound in English. Not all people with the cot-caught merger pronounce the words the same way.

– Peter Shor
27 mins ago














Individual skills in pronouncing foreign sounds and words vary all over the multi-dimensional spectrum. There is no such thing as "an American with the cot/caught merger"; everybody is different. Some folks just slide right over to native phonetics while others never get close when they come on novel sounds as adults. If you really want to know, experiment. But pick a large n.

– John Lawler
6 mins ago





Individual skills in pronouncing foreign sounds and words vary all over the multi-dimensional spectrum. There is no such thing as "an American with the cot/caught merger"; everybody is different. Some folks just slide right over to native phonetics while others never get close when they come on novel sounds as adults. If you really want to know, experiment. But pick a large n.

– John Lawler
6 mins ago










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