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“Such criticism was hard (for people) to take.” — Is “such criticism” a subject or an object?



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)How do I determine subject and subject complement in “A side-effect is the spread of commercialese to other domains.”?Subject Verb Object Patternsubject + verb + infinitiveConfusing rule about subject-verb agreementWhat's the subject of “There is my biscuit!” ? And how about “There is one biscuit left”?Can words like “what” be the subject of a sentence?Indicative without a subjectWhich one is correct - “ There is only us here” or “There are only us here”Asking subject - object questions. 'Did' or past form of the verb in Past Simple?“Name and I” or “name and me” when they are neither the object nor subject?



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(1) Such criticism was hard to take.



(2) Such criticism was hard for people to take.




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I think "to take" is a transitive verb here and "such criticism" is an object of it. Therefore "such criticism" can't be a subject.










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    The subject in both cases is "Such criticism".

    – FumbleFingers
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  • "Such criticism" is the subject. It consists of the noun "criticism" as head and the adjective "such" as modifier. We know it's the subject because it occurs in the usual place before the verb ("was"), and it inverts with an auxiliary verb in questions: "Was such criticism hard to take?"

    – BillJ
    8 hours ago












  • "take" is transitive here and "such criticism" is an object of it. Why is it incorrect?

    – Loviii
    8 hours ago











  • "To take" is not the main verb of the sentence. It's a to-infinitive following an adjective, and serves to further describe the subject (such criticism). You can see examples of the construction here: grammaring.com/adjective-to-infinitive

    – TaliesinMerlin
    7 hours ago






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    No: "Such criticism" is the subject. The object of "take" is missing, though it is recoverable from an antecedent expression -- in this case the subject "such criticism". Thus what was hard (for people) to take was "such criticism"

    – BillJ
    7 hours ago

















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Good day!




Examples:



(1) Such criticism was hard to take.



(2) Such criticism was hard for people to take.




Questions:



Where are subjects here and why?



What can we say about the types of these subjects?




Thanks!




Updated:



I think "to take" is a transitive verb here and "such criticism" is an object of it. Therefore "such criticism" can't be a subject.










share|improve this question



















  • 2





    The subject in both cases is "Such criticism".

    – FumbleFingers
    8 hours ago











  • "Such criticism" is the subject. It consists of the noun "criticism" as head and the adjective "such" as modifier. We know it's the subject because it occurs in the usual place before the verb ("was"), and it inverts with an auxiliary verb in questions: "Was such criticism hard to take?"

    – BillJ
    8 hours ago












  • "take" is transitive here and "such criticism" is an object of it. Why is it incorrect?

    – Loviii
    8 hours ago











  • "To take" is not the main verb of the sentence. It's a to-infinitive following an adjective, and serves to further describe the subject (such criticism). You can see examples of the construction here: grammaring.com/adjective-to-infinitive

    – TaliesinMerlin
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    No: "Such criticism" is the subject. The object of "take" is missing, though it is recoverable from an antecedent expression -- in this case the subject "such criticism". Thus what was hard (for people) to take was "such criticism"

    – BillJ
    7 hours ago













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Good day!




Examples:



(1) Such criticism was hard to take.



(2) Such criticism was hard for people to take.




Questions:



Where are subjects here and why?



What can we say about the types of these subjects?




Thanks!




Updated:



I think "to take" is a transitive verb here and "such criticism" is an object of it. Therefore "such criticism" can't be a subject.










share|improve this question
















Good day!




Examples:



(1) Such criticism was hard to take.



(2) Such criticism was hard for people to take.




Questions:



Where are subjects here and why?



What can we say about the types of these subjects?




Thanks!




Updated:



I think "to take" is a transitive verb here and "such criticism" is an object of it. Therefore "such criticism" can't be a subject.







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    The subject in both cases is "Such criticism".

    – FumbleFingers
    8 hours ago











  • "Such criticism" is the subject. It consists of the noun "criticism" as head and the adjective "such" as modifier. We know it's the subject because it occurs in the usual place before the verb ("was"), and it inverts with an auxiliary verb in questions: "Was such criticism hard to take?"

    – BillJ
    8 hours ago












  • "take" is transitive here and "such criticism" is an object of it. Why is it incorrect?

    – Loviii
    8 hours ago











  • "To take" is not the main verb of the sentence. It's a to-infinitive following an adjective, and serves to further describe the subject (such criticism). You can see examples of the construction here: grammaring.com/adjective-to-infinitive

    – TaliesinMerlin
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    No: "Such criticism" is the subject. The object of "take" is missing, though it is recoverable from an antecedent expression -- in this case the subject "such criticism". Thus what was hard (for people) to take was "such criticism"

    – BillJ
    7 hours ago












  • 2





    The subject in both cases is "Such criticism".

    – FumbleFingers
    8 hours ago











  • "Such criticism" is the subject. It consists of the noun "criticism" as head and the adjective "such" as modifier. We know it's the subject because it occurs in the usual place before the verb ("was"), and it inverts with an auxiliary verb in questions: "Was such criticism hard to take?"

    – BillJ
    8 hours ago












  • "take" is transitive here and "such criticism" is an object of it. Why is it incorrect?

    – Loviii
    8 hours ago











  • "To take" is not the main verb of the sentence. It's a to-infinitive following an adjective, and serves to further describe the subject (such criticism). You can see examples of the construction here: grammaring.com/adjective-to-infinitive

    – TaliesinMerlin
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    No: "Such criticism" is the subject. The object of "take" is missing, though it is recoverable from an antecedent expression -- in this case the subject "such criticism". Thus what was hard (for people) to take was "such criticism"

    – BillJ
    7 hours ago







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The subject in both cases is "Such criticism".

– FumbleFingers
8 hours ago





The subject in both cases is "Such criticism".

– FumbleFingers
8 hours ago













"Such criticism" is the subject. It consists of the noun "criticism" as head and the adjective "such" as modifier. We know it's the subject because it occurs in the usual place before the verb ("was"), and it inverts with an auxiliary verb in questions: "Was such criticism hard to take?"

– BillJ
8 hours ago






"Such criticism" is the subject. It consists of the noun "criticism" as head and the adjective "such" as modifier. We know it's the subject because it occurs in the usual place before the verb ("was"), and it inverts with an auxiliary verb in questions: "Was such criticism hard to take?"

– BillJ
8 hours ago














"take" is transitive here and "such criticism" is an object of it. Why is it incorrect?

– Loviii
8 hours ago





"take" is transitive here and "such criticism" is an object of it. Why is it incorrect?

– Loviii
8 hours ago













"To take" is not the main verb of the sentence. It's a to-infinitive following an adjective, and serves to further describe the subject (such criticism). You can see examples of the construction here: grammaring.com/adjective-to-infinitive

– TaliesinMerlin
7 hours ago





"To take" is not the main verb of the sentence. It's a to-infinitive following an adjective, and serves to further describe the subject (such criticism). You can see examples of the construction here: grammaring.com/adjective-to-infinitive

– TaliesinMerlin
7 hours ago




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No: "Such criticism" is the subject. The object of "take" is missing, though it is recoverable from an antecedent expression -- in this case the subject "such criticism". Thus what was hard (for people) to take was "such criticism"

– BillJ
7 hours ago





No: "Such criticism" is the subject. The object of "take" is missing, though it is recoverable from an antecedent expression -- in this case the subject "such criticism". Thus what was hard (for people) to take was "such criticism"

– BillJ
7 hours ago










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The question seems to be strange. In sentence (1) there is no other noun or pronoun that can be the subject, so the subject must be 'criticism' with the modifier 'such'. In sentence (2) the situation is similar because 'for people' is just a clarification. In both sentences, I would personally begin with the question 'What was difficult to take?' and the answer for this question reveals the subject 'Such criticism'.






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    The question seems to be strange. In sentence (1) there is no other noun or pronoun that can be the subject, so the subject must be 'criticism' with the modifier 'such'. In sentence (2) the situation is similar because 'for people' is just a clarification. In both sentences, I would personally begin with the question 'What was difficult to take?' and the answer for this question reveals the subject 'Such criticism'.






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      The question seems to be strange. In sentence (1) there is no other noun or pronoun that can be the subject, so the subject must be 'criticism' with the modifier 'such'. In sentence (2) the situation is similar because 'for people' is just a clarification. In both sentences, I would personally begin with the question 'What was difficult to take?' and the answer for this question reveals the subject 'Such criticism'.






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        The question seems to be strange. In sentence (1) there is no other noun or pronoun that can be the subject, so the subject must be 'criticism' with the modifier 'such'. In sentence (2) the situation is similar because 'for people' is just a clarification. In both sentences, I would personally begin with the question 'What was difficult to take?' and the answer for this question reveals the subject 'Such criticism'.







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