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Can object complements make any difference to sentences?What does “in a sinister light” mean?Does 'for' here mean despite? and Does 'lightness' here mean light-minded?in an evolutionary lightfattening lightCorrect translation for the light switch for a websitewhat does “sip sign green-light” mean?To light a cigaretteWhat does “light” mean here?Need help in punctuation…!













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In Catch-22 there is following passage (my emphasis):




The unfrosted light bulb overhead was swinging crazily on its loose wire, and the jumbled black shadows kept swirling and bobbing chaotically, so that the entire tent seemed to be reeling.




Why is the light bulb "unfrosted"? I understand the meaning of "unfrost", but I don't understand how a light bulb can be unfrosted. Is this some metaphor?










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    It means a light bulb without a "frosted" surface, so that the glass bulb is clear and you can see the filament inside. images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/…

    – Hot Licks
    10 hours ago






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    Most of the old-style incandescent light bulbs were "frosted" (acid-etched or something) so they gave a more "diffuse" light source. Clear glass bulbs (where you'd actually be able to see the bright glowing filament clearly) were more common even earlier (they were also cheaper, once). Hence the cited usage is "atmospheric" (it's old spooky sort of place, with a correspondingly antiquated light source). Like ghost stories are usually set in old castles, not modern apartments.

    – FumbleFingers
    10 hours ago











  • @HotLicks: Snap2! Can't we measure "weight, mass, gravity/gravitas" here in terms of number of words, rather than speed of response? :)

    – FumbleFingers
    10 hours ago






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    Also, I think you'd almost certainly get sharper shadows in light from an unfrosted bulb. And I'm sure we all agree that "single point light sources + sharp shadows" are far more spooky than diffuse lights and softer shadows.

    – FumbleFingers
    10 hours ago






  • 4





    If you believe you understand the meaning of "unfrost", you might be wrong. "Unfrost" isn't a valid English word. There is a word "defrost" which may be what you were thinking of, but "defrost-ed" doesn't have the same structure as "un-frosted".

    – Mark Beadles
    8 hours ago















3















In Catch-22 there is following passage (my emphasis):




The unfrosted light bulb overhead was swinging crazily on its loose wire, and the jumbled black shadows kept swirling and bobbing chaotically, so that the entire tent seemed to be reeling.




Why is the light bulb "unfrosted"? I understand the meaning of "unfrost", but I don't understand how a light bulb can be unfrosted. Is this some metaphor?










share|improve this question

















  • 4





    It means a light bulb without a "frosted" surface, so that the glass bulb is clear and you can see the filament inside. images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/…

    – Hot Licks
    10 hours ago






  • 1





    Most of the old-style incandescent light bulbs were "frosted" (acid-etched or something) so they gave a more "diffuse" light source. Clear glass bulbs (where you'd actually be able to see the bright glowing filament clearly) were more common even earlier (they were also cheaper, once). Hence the cited usage is "atmospheric" (it's old spooky sort of place, with a correspondingly antiquated light source). Like ghost stories are usually set in old castles, not modern apartments.

    – FumbleFingers
    10 hours ago











  • @HotLicks: Snap2! Can't we measure "weight, mass, gravity/gravitas" here in terms of number of words, rather than speed of response? :)

    – FumbleFingers
    10 hours ago






  • 1





    Also, I think you'd almost certainly get sharper shadows in light from an unfrosted bulb. And I'm sure we all agree that "single point light sources + sharp shadows" are far more spooky than diffuse lights and softer shadows.

    – FumbleFingers
    10 hours ago






  • 4





    If you believe you understand the meaning of "unfrost", you might be wrong. "Unfrost" isn't a valid English word. There is a word "defrost" which may be what you were thinking of, but "defrost-ed" doesn't have the same structure as "un-frosted".

    – Mark Beadles
    8 hours ago













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In Catch-22 there is following passage (my emphasis):




The unfrosted light bulb overhead was swinging crazily on its loose wire, and the jumbled black shadows kept swirling and bobbing chaotically, so that the entire tent seemed to be reeling.




Why is the light bulb "unfrosted"? I understand the meaning of "unfrost", but I don't understand how a light bulb can be unfrosted. Is this some metaphor?










share|improve this question














In Catch-22 there is following passage (my emphasis):




The unfrosted light bulb overhead was swinging crazily on its loose wire, and the jumbled black shadows kept swirling and bobbing chaotically, so that the entire tent seemed to be reeling.




Why is the light bulb "unfrosted"? I understand the meaning of "unfrost", but I don't understand how a light bulb can be unfrosted. Is this some metaphor?







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    It means a light bulb without a "frosted" surface, so that the glass bulb is clear and you can see the filament inside. images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/…

    – Hot Licks
    10 hours ago






  • 1





    Most of the old-style incandescent light bulbs were "frosted" (acid-etched or something) so they gave a more "diffuse" light source. Clear glass bulbs (where you'd actually be able to see the bright glowing filament clearly) were more common even earlier (they were also cheaper, once). Hence the cited usage is "atmospheric" (it's old spooky sort of place, with a correspondingly antiquated light source). Like ghost stories are usually set in old castles, not modern apartments.

    – FumbleFingers
    10 hours ago











  • @HotLicks: Snap2! Can't we measure "weight, mass, gravity/gravitas" here in terms of number of words, rather than speed of response? :)

    – FumbleFingers
    10 hours ago






  • 1





    Also, I think you'd almost certainly get sharper shadows in light from an unfrosted bulb. And I'm sure we all agree that "single point light sources + sharp shadows" are far more spooky than diffuse lights and softer shadows.

    – FumbleFingers
    10 hours ago






  • 4





    If you believe you understand the meaning of "unfrost", you might be wrong. "Unfrost" isn't a valid English word. There is a word "defrost" which may be what you were thinking of, but "defrost-ed" doesn't have the same structure as "un-frosted".

    – Mark Beadles
    8 hours ago












  • 4





    It means a light bulb without a "frosted" surface, so that the glass bulb is clear and you can see the filament inside. images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/…

    – Hot Licks
    10 hours ago






  • 1





    Most of the old-style incandescent light bulbs were "frosted" (acid-etched or something) so they gave a more "diffuse" light source. Clear glass bulbs (where you'd actually be able to see the bright glowing filament clearly) were more common even earlier (they were also cheaper, once). Hence the cited usage is "atmospheric" (it's old spooky sort of place, with a correspondingly antiquated light source). Like ghost stories are usually set in old castles, not modern apartments.

    – FumbleFingers
    10 hours ago











  • @HotLicks: Snap2! Can't we measure "weight, mass, gravity/gravitas" here in terms of number of words, rather than speed of response? :)

    – FumbleFingers
    10 hours ago






  • 1





    Also, I think you'd almost certainly get sharper shadows in light from an unfrosted bulb. And I'm sure we all agree that "single point light sources + sharp shadows" are far more spooky than diffuse lights and softer shadows.

    – FumbleFingers
    10 hours ago






  • 4





    If you believe you understand the meaning of "unfrost", you might be wrong. "Unfrost" isn't a valid English word. There is a word "defrost" which may be what you were thinking of, but "defrost-ed" doesn't have the same structure as "un-frosted".

    – Mark Beadles
    8 hours ago







4




4





It means a light bulb without a "frosted" surface, so that the glass bulb is clear and you can see the filament inside. images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/…

– Hot Licks
10 hours ago





It means a light bulb without a "frosted" surface, so that the glass bulb is clear and you can see the filament inside. images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/…

– Hot Licks
10 hours ago




1




1





Most of the old-style incandescent light bulbs were "frosted" (acid-etched or something) so they gave a more "diffuse" light source. Clear glass bulbs (where you'd actually be able to see the bright glowing filament clearly) were more common even earlier (they were also cheaper, once). Hence the cited usage is "atmospheric" (it's old spooky sort of place, with a correspondingly antiquated light source). Like ghost stories are usually set in old castles, not modern apartments.

– FumbleFingers
10 hours ago





Most of the old-style incandescent light bulbs were "frosted" (acid-etched or something) so they gave a more "diffuse" light source. Clear glass bulbs (where you'd actually be able to see the bright glowing filament clearly) were more common even earlier (they were also cheaper, once). Hence the cited usage is "atmospheric" (it's old spooky sort of place, with a correspondingly antiquated light source). Like ghost stories are usually set in old castles, not modern apartments.

– FumbleFingers
10 hours ago













@HotLicks: Snap2! Can't we measure "weight, mass, gravity/gravitas" here in terms of number of words, rather than speed of response? :)

– FumbleFingers
10 hours ago





@HotLicks: Snap2! Can't we measure "weight, mass, gravity/gravitas" here in terms of number of words, rather than speed of response? :)

– FumbleFingers
10 hours ago




1




1





Also, I think you'd almost certainly get sharper shadows in light from an unfrosted bulb. And I'm sure we all agree that "single point light sources + sharp shadows" are far more spooky than diffuse lights and softer shadows.

– FumbleFingers
10 hours ago





Also, I think you'd almost certainly get sharper shadows in light from an unfrosted bulb. And I'm sure we all agree that "single point light sources + sharp shadows" are far more spooky than diffuse lights and softer shadows.

– FumbleFingers
10 hours ago




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If you believe you understand the meaning of "unfrost", you might be wrong. "Unfrost" isn't a valid English word. There is a word "defrost" which may be what you were thinking of, but "defrost-ed" doesn't have the same structure as "un-frosted".

– Mark Beadles
8 hours ago





If you believe you understand the meaning of "unfrost", you might be wrong. "Unfrost" isn't a valid English word. There is a word "defrost" which may be what you were thinking of, but "defrost-ed" doesn't have the same structure as "un-frosted".

– Mark Beadles
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It means the light bulb that is "not frosted"? Frosted glass is translucent(semi transparent).



So maybe it refers to a clear(transparent) glass bulb where you can see the filament.






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    A frosted light bulb (l) is one with a translucent white coating sprayed on the interior surface which diffuses the light. Earlier incandescent bulbs were all made of clear glass, i.e. unfrosted (r). Frosted bulbs came on the American market in the 1920s.






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      Whilst we can agree about the literal meaning of frosted and unfrosted, the important part is what the significance would be in this context.



      We need to look at the properties of these bulbs. Both lampshades and frosting made the light less harsh by making the shadows more diffuse. A lampshade would have given the most pleasant light, at the cost of (1) the lampshade, and (2) reduced efficiency as some light would be absorbed, leading to higher running costs. A frosted bulb would have had the same two effects, to a lesser extent.



      This bulb (which clearly had no shade as it was just on a wire) was therefore the cheapest option, in terms of both capital and running costs. So we get a sense of cheapness.



      But we also get a sense of atmosphere, as these moving shadows, caused by the swinging bulb would have been much more noticeable, detailed and distracting from this unshaded, unfrosted bulb. Even a small movement would lead to moving sharp patterns on the wall, that would not occur with a frosted bulb.






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      • Note that this light bulb was in a tent - so it may even have been battery powered. Also, in a tent, any wind would cause the bulb to be "swinging crazily on its loose wire".

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      It means the light bulb that is "not frosted"? Frosted glass is translucent(semi transparent).



      So maybe it refers to a clear(transparent) glass bulb where you can see the filament.






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        It means the light bulb that is "not frosted"? Frosted glass is translucent(semi transparent).



        So maybe it refers to a clear(transparent) glass bulb where you can see the filament.






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          It means the light bulb that is "not frosted"? Frosted glass is translucent(semi transparent).



          So maybe it refers to a clear(transparent) glass bulb where you can see the filament.






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          It means the light bulb that is "not frosted"? Frosted glass is translucent(semi transparent).



          So maybe it refers to a clear(transparent) glass bulb where you can see the filament.







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              A frosted light bulb (l) is one with a translucent white coating sprayed on the interior surface which diffuses the light. Earlier incandescent bulbs were all made of clear glass, i.e. unfrosted (r). Frosted bulbs came on the American market in the 1920s.






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                A frosted light bulb (l) is one with a translucent white coating sprayed on the interior surface which diffuses the light. Earlier incandescent bulbs were all made of clear glass, i.e. unfrosted (r). Frosted bulbs came on the American market in the 1920s.






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                  A frosted light bulb (l) is one with a translucent white coating sprayed on the interior surface which diffuses the light. Earlier incandescent bulbs were all made of clear glass, i.e. unfrosted (r). Frosted bulbs came on the American market in the 1920s.






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                  A frosted light bulb (l) is one with a translucent white coating sprayed on the interior surface which diffuses the light. Earlier incandescent bulbs were all made of clear glass, i.e. unfrosted (r). Frosted bulbs came on the American market in the 1920s.







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                      Whilst we can agree about the literal meaning of frosted and unfrosted, the important part is what the significance would be in this context.



                      We need to look at the properties of these bulbs. Both lampshades and frosting made the light less harsh by making the shadows more diffuse. A lampshade would have given the most pleasant light, at the cost of (1) the lampshade, and (2) reduced efficiency as some light would be absorbed, leading to higher running costs. A frosted bulb would have had the same two effects, to a lesser extent.



                      This bulb (which clearly had no shade as it was just on a wire) was therefore the cheapest option, in terms of both capital and running costs. So we get a sense of cheapness.



                      But we also get a sense of atmosphere, as these moving shadows, caused by the swinging bulb would have been much more noticeable, detailed and distracting from this unshaded, unfrosted bulb. Even a small movement would lead to moving sharp patterns on the wall, that would not occur with a frosted bulb.






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                      • Note that this light bulb was in a tent - so it may even have been battery powered. Also, in a tent, any wind would cause the bulb to be "swinging crazily on its loose wire".

                        – TrevorD
                        5 hours ago















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                      Whilst we can agree about the literal meaning of frosted and unfrosted, the important part is what the significance would be in this context.



                      We need to look at the properties of these bulbs. Both lampshades and frosting made the light less harsh by making the shadows more diffuse. A lampshade would have given the most pleasant light, at the cost of (1) the lampshade, and (2) reduced efficiency as some light would be absorbed, leading to higher running costs. A frosted bulb would have had the same two effects, to a lesser extent.



                      This bulb (which clearly had no shade as it was just on a wire) was therefore the cheapest option, in terms of both capital and running costs. So we get a sense of cheapness.



                      But we also get a sense of atmosphere, as these moving shadows, caused by the swinging bulb would have been much more noticeable, detailed and distracting from this unshaded, unfrosted bulb. Even a small movement would lead to moving sharp patterns on the wall, that would not occur with a frosted bulb.






                      share|improve this answer























                      • Note that this light bulb was in a tent - so it may even have been battery powered. Also, in a tent, any wind would cause the bulb to be "swinging crazily on its loose wire".

                        – TrevorD
                        5 hours ago













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                      Whilst we can agree about the literal meaning of frosted and unfrosted, the important part is what the significance would be in this context.



                      We need to look at the properties of these bulbs. Both lampshades and frosting made the light less harsh by making the shadows more diffuse. A lampshade would have given the most pleasant light, at the cost of (1) the lampshade, and (2) reduced efficiency as some light would be absorbed, leading to higher running costs. A frosted bulb would have had the same two effects, to a lesser extent.



                      This bulb (which clearly had no shade as it was just on a wire) was therefore the cheapest option, in terms of both capital and running costs. So we get a sense of cheapness.



                      But we also get a sense of atmosphere, as these moving shadows, caused by the swinging bulb would have been much more noticeable, detailed and distracting from this unshaded, unfrosted bulb. Even a small movement would lead to moving sharp patterns on the wall, that would not occur with a frosted bulb.






                      share|improve this answer













                      Whilst we can agree about the literal meaning of frosted and unfrosted, the important part is what the significance would be in this context.



                      We need to look at the properties of these bulbs. Both lampshades and frosting made the light less harsh by making the shadows more diffuse. A lampshade would have given the most pleasant light, at the cost of (1) the lampshade, and (2) reduced efficiency as some light would be absorbed, leading to higher running costs. A frosted bulb would have had the same two effects, to a lesser extent.



                      This bulb (which clearly had no shade as it was just on a wire) was therefore the cheapest option, in terms of both capital and running costs. So we get a sense of cheapness.



                      But we also get a sense of atmosphere, as these moving shadows, caused by the swinging bulb would have been much more noticeable, detailed and distracting from this unshaded, unfrosted bulb. Even a small movement would lead to moving sharp patterns on the wall, that would not occur with a frosted bulb.







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                      • Note that this light bulb was in a tent - so it may even have been battery powered. Also, in a tent, any wind would cause the bulb to be "swinging crazily on its loose wire".

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                      Note that this light bulb was in a tent - so it may even have been battery powered. Also, in a tent, any wind would cause the bulb to be "swinging crazily on its loose wire".

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                      Note that this light bulb was in a tent - so it may even have been battery powered. Also, in a tent, any wind would cause the bulb to be "swinging crazily on its loose wire".

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