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Why “All MEEMIES are SCREAMING” is not a Strong Collocation?

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Stormy Petrels:

According to this article Elliott Moreton categorize these specific group of words as "Stormy Petrels".

A stormy petrel, also known as a storm petrel, is an Atlantic seabird (also found in the Mediterranean). The term "stormy petrel" in general usage has come to refer to a harbinger of trouble; perhaps people believed that the bird was seen just before a storm. Sometime in the late '80s, Elliott Moreton came up with a category of words which can't be used except in the company of specific other words; having heard the word "petrel" only in the company of the word "stormy," he decided to call such items "stormy petrels." As it happens, there is such a thing as a petrel which isn't stormy, but the term was a catchy one so it stuck.

Examples of Stormy Petrels:

1. All MEEMIES are SCREAMING




2. All DURANCE is VILE




3. All RECRIMINATIONS are BITTER

Note: In example 3, the word recriminations do occur alone. Example taken from Oxford dictionary:

Meaning of Recriminations: An accusation in response to one from someone else.

Usage: "there are no tears, no recriminations."

Strong Collocation:

Strong collocations are when particular words can collocate with very few words. These two words are usually fixed and restricted.

Examples of Strong Collocation(Check strong collocation):

1. Curly Hair




2. Whisk an egg

So, what is the difference between "Stormy Petrels" and "Strong Collocation"? Or Are "Stormy Petrels" nothing, but "Strong Collocation"?

differences collocation

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  Since we can say "curly fries" and "curly straw" and "whisk someone off their feet" and "whisk the batter," those clearly aren't stormy petrels. I mean, those are just examples I came up with off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many, many more. That would indicate to me that a "strong collocation" is just words that are very often used together, meaning they have a strong relationship, but not an exclusive relationship like with stormy petrels such that they never appear without the other.
  
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  @BenjaminHarman I guess, it is more to do with words appearing in conjunction with each other than appearing alone. That is, either you will find "MEEMIES" and "SCREAMING" together or one of the word (in this case: Meemies) will never appear in conjunction with some other word, right?
  
  – Ubi hatt
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  In the UK, we have abdabs that are screaming.
  
  – Michael Harvey
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  Benjamin Harman - "I'm sure there are many, many more.". I had curly kale today.
  
  – Michael Harvey
  43 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  

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1

2

Stormy Petrels:

According to this article Elliott Moreton categorize these specific group of words as "Stormy Petrels".

A stormy petrel, also known as a storm petrel, is an Atlantic seabird (also found in the Mediterranean). The term "stormy petrel" in general usage has come to refer to a harbinger of trouble; perhaps people believed that the bird was seen just before a storm. Sometime in the late '80s, Elliott Moreton came up with a category of words which can't be used except in the company of specific other words; having heard the word "petrel" only in the company of the word "stormy," he decided to call such items "stormy petrels." As it happens, there is such a thing as a petrel which isn't stormy, but the term was a catchy one so it stuck.

Examples of Stormy Petrels:

1. All MEEMIES are SCREAMING




2. All DURANCE is VILE




3. All RECRIMINATIONS are BITTER

Note: In example 3, the word recriminations do occur alone. Example taken from Oxford dictionary:

Meaning of Recriminations: An accusation in response to one from someone else.

Usage: "there are no tears, no recriminations."

Strong Collocation:

Strong collocations are when particular words can collocate with very few words. These two words are usually fixed and restricted.

Examples of Strong Collocation(Check strong collocation):

1. Curly Hair




2. Whisk an egg

So, what is the difference between "Stormy Petrels" and "Strong Collocation"? Or Are "Stormy Petrels" nothing, but "Strong Collocation"?

differences collocation

share|improve this question

asked 1 hour ago

Ubi hattUbi hatt

3,7851027

• 
  
  
  

  
  2
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Since we can say "curly fries" and "curly straw" and "whisk someone off their feet" and "whisk the batter," those clearly aren't stormy petrels. I mean, those are just examples I came up with off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many, many more. That would indicate to me that a "strong collocation" is just words that are very often used together, meaning they have a strong relationship, but not an exclusive relationship like with stormy petrels such that they never appear without the other.
  
  – Benjamin Harman
  1 hour ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Related
  
  – Robusto
  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @BenjaminHarman I guess, it is more to do with words appearing in conjunction with each other than appearing alone. That is, either you will find "MEEMIES" and "SCREAMING" together or one of the word (in this case: Meemies) will never appear in conjunction with some other word, right?
  
  – Ubi hatt
  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  In the UK, we have abdabs that are screaming.
  
  – Michael Harvey
  45 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Benjamin Harman - "I'm sure there are many, many more.". I had curly kale today.
  
  – Michael Harvey
  43 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  

 | 
show 1 more comment

Stormy Petrels:

According to this article Elliott Moreton categorize these specific group of words as "Stormy Petrels".

A stormy petrel, also known as a storm petrel, is an Atlantic seabird (also found in the Mediterranean). The term "stormy petrel" in general usage has come to refer to a harbinger of trouble; perhaps people believed that the bird was seen just before a storm. Sometime in the late '80s, Elliott Moreton came up with a category of words which can't be used except in the company of specific other words; having heard the word "petrel" only in the company of the word "stormy," he decided to call such items "stormy petrels." As it happens, there is such a thing as a petrel which isn't stormy, but the term was a catchy one so it stuck.

Examples of Stormy Petrels:

1. All MEEMIES are SCREAMING




2. All DURANCE is VILE




3. All RECRIMINATIONS are BITTER

Note: In example 3, the word recriminations do occur alone. Example taken from Oxford dictionary:

Meaning of Recriminations: An accusation in response to one from someone else.

Usage: "there are no tears, no recriminations."

Strong Collocation:

Strong collocations are when particular words can collocate with very few words. These two words are usually fixed and restricted.

Examples of Strong Collocation(Check strong collocation):

1. Curly Hair




2. Whisk an egg

So, what is the difference between "Stormy Petrels" and "Strong Collocation"? Or Are "Stormy Petrels" nothing, but "Strong Collocation"?

differences collocation

share|improve this question

asked 1 hour ago

Ubi hattUbi hatt

3,7851027

share|improve this question

asked 1 hour ago

Ubi hattUbi hatt

3,7851027

share|improve this question

asked 1 hour ago

Ubi hattUbi hatt

3,7851027

asked 1 hour ago

Ubi hattUbi hatt

3,7851027

asked 1 hour ago

Ubi hattUbi hatt

3,7851027