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Bullying boss launched a smear campaign and made me unemployable


How to deal with bullying at work when it has become the company culture?dealing with bullyingDealing with boss and his request to (male) employees including myself, how to handle this right?How to avoid a project subtly to avoid interacting with former bossOffice violenceColleague ignores my emails and accuses me of bullyingMy boss jokes too often about me not been able to write good code to the point I think it may damage my reputation. Any solution?Workplace condones bullying - resignation letters and future interviewsProspective employer “begging” me for a second chanceHow can I stop my boss in Germany from bullying me without worsening my future job prospects?













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My boss has a history of bullying multiple people in the past to work crazy hours to meet absolutely unrealistic deadlines which have led to numerous cases of serious depression and even one (thankfully unsuccessful) attempt of suicide among his employees. I have heard a story of one person getting so depressed, it led to a divorce and him emigrating to another country.



He is known in the industry for developing a start-up company with his partners and selling it for a couple dozen million euros.



In public is a very soft spoken and friendly person. I would say he seems the friendliest person I have ever met, which causes cognitive dissonance in my brain. This is how a lot of other business owners, managers and generally people in the industry know him.



In Sweden, where I live it is a part of the culture to avoid confrontations at all cost, so to what I have seen so far, most people who had any guts to deal with the situation quietly quit.



I have done something stupid. I confronted him publicly and demanded a change. Lots of people supported me privately, but not a single one joined me in the public.



His reaction was cutting my benefits, creating obstructions to my work, not inviting me to meetings, ignoring me, taking away my projects and assigning made up meaningless tasks to me.



I have informed HR and after some behind closed doors talks I was offered either relocation to Germany (as I am German myself) or 6 months pay and resignation. Since I have a mortgage, wife and two preschool kids, I have chosen the latter.



Now I am searching for a new job and facing a true job seeker's nightmare:



  • interviews being cancelled at the last moment

  • people that tried to recruit me in the past do not even reply to my emails

  • yesterday's interviewers hanging out the phone

  • etc.

Last Friday a friend of mine from the company I have had an absolutely fantastic interview last week, after which I received super short rejection email, told me everyone approved me, but last week they received an email from my current boss telling them not to hire me, because "I am conflicting" and "will certainly cause problems".



Today, I had a quick chat with a union representative and a lawyer. Both told me that technically he is just exercising his freedom of speech and it'll be hard to run a legal action against him, but I should collect all the evidence and proofs of all the interactions between him and me, so I went back to office after work hours and found out that my inbox is missing lots of emails sent to him and HR.



This guy destroyed my reputation and all the evidence of this.



Now I am having a panic attack and trying to calm myself with whiskey while my wife and kids are watching a movie.



How can I prevent my former boss from sabotaging future job opportunities?



TL;DR I have a bullying manager who is very well-connected in the industry and is destroying my reputation.










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    If what you described is true, what your former boss did is way past freedom of speech and quite a few steps into defamation and personal harassment zone, talk to a lawyer with expertise in subject matter. Also if your former boss is a public figure, you may also want to contact local press.

    – tweray
    6 hours ago







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    "I am not exactly sure what my question is" - you might want to think this over a bit and be more clear what you are asking for. You are unlikely to get a good answer without a real question.

    – Joe Strazzere
    6 hours ago






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    How does your current boss know where you are applying for a job?

    – Bernhard
    4 hours ago






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    First of all, stop calming yourself with whiskey.

    – TT_
    3 hours ago






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    Talk further to the lawyer - chances are that emails are backed up, and that just because they have been deleted superficially you could still retrieve copies with a subpoena. If the lawyer doesn't know what you're talking about, change lawyers.

    – George M
    1 hour ago















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My boss has a history of bullying multiple people in the past to work crazy hours to meet absolutely unrealistic deadlines which have led to numerous cases of serious depression and even one (thankfully unsuccessful) attempt of suicide among his employees. I have heard a story of one person getting so depressed, it led to a divorce and him emigrating to another country.



He is known in the industry for developing a start-up company with his partners and selling it for a couple dozen million euros.



In public is a very soft spoken and friendly person. I would say he seems the friendliest person I have ever met, which causes cognitive dissonance in my brain. This is how a lot of other business owners, managers and generally people in the industry know him.



In Sweden, where I live it is a part of the culture to avoid confrontations at all cost, so to what I have seen so far, most people who had any guts to deal with the situation quietly quit.



I have done something stupid. I confronted him publicly and demanded a change. Lots of people supported me privately, but not a single one joined me in the public.



His reaction was cutting my benefits, creating obstructions to my work, not inviting me to meetings, ignoring me, taking away my projects and assigning made up meaningless tasks to me.



I have informed HR and after some behind closed doors talks I was offered either relocation to Germany (as I am German myself) or 6 months pay and resignation. Since I have a mortgage, wife and two preschool kids, I have chosen the latter.



Now I am searching for a new job and facing a true job seeker's nightmare:



  • interviews being cancelled at the last moment

  • people that tried to recruit me in the past do not even reply to my emails

  • yesterday's interviewers hanging out the phone

  • etc.

Last Friday a friend of mine from the company I have had an absolutely fantastic interview last week, after which I received super short rejection email, told me everyone approved me, but last week they received an email from my current boss telling them not to hire me, because "I am conflicting" and "will certainly cause problems".



Today, I had a quick chat with a union representative and a lawyer. Both told me that technically he is just exercising his freedom of speech and it'll be hard to run a legal action against him, but I should collect all the evidence and proofs of all the interactions between him and me, so I went back to office after work hours and found out that my inbox is missing lots of emails sent to him and HR.



This guy destroyed my reputation and all the evidence of this.



Now I am having a panic attack and trying to calm myself with whiskey while my wife and kids are watching a movie.



How can I prevent my former boss from sabotaging future job opportunities?



TL;DR I have a bullying manager who is very well-connected in the industry and is destroying my reputation.










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    If what you described is true, what your former boss did is way past freedom of speech and quite a few steps into defamation and personal harassment zone, talk to a lawyer with expertise in subject matter. Also if your former boss is a public figure, you may also want to contact local press.

    – tweray
    6 hours ago







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    "I am not exactly sure what my question is" - you might want to think this over a bit and be more clear what you are asking for. You are unlikely to get a good answer without a real question.

    – Joe Strazzere
    6 hours ago






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    How does your current boss know where you are applying for a job?

    – Bernhard
    4 hours ago






  • 5





    First of all, stop calming yourself with whiskey.

    – TT_
    3 hours ago






  • 2





    Talk further to the lawyer - chances are that emails are backed up, and that just because they have been deleted superficially you could still retrieve copies with a subpoena. If the lawyer doesn't know what you're talking about, change lawyers.

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My boss has a history of bullying multiple people in the past to work crazy hours to meet absolutely unrealistic deadlines which have led to numerous cases of serious depression and even one (thankfully unsuccessful) attempt of suicide among his employees. I have heard a story of one person getting so depressed, it led to a divorce and him emigrating to another country.



He is known in the industry for developing a start-up company with his partners and selling it for a couple dozen million euros.



In public is a very soft spoken and friendly person. I would say he seems the friendliest person I have ever met, which causes cognitive dissonance in my brain. This is how a lot of other business owners, managers and generally people in the industry know him.



In Sweden, where I live it is a part of the culture to avoid confrontations at all cost, so to what I have seen so far, most people who had any guts to deal with the situation quietly quit.



I have done something stupid. I confronted him publicly and demanded a change. Lots of people supported me privately, but not a single one joined me in the public.



His reaction was cutting my benefits, creating obstructions to my work, not inviting me to meetings, ignoring me, taking away my projects and assigning made up meaningless tasks to me.



I have informed HR and after some behind closed doors talks I was offered either relocation to Germany (as I am German myself) or 6 months pay and resignation. Since I have a mortgage, wife and two preschool kids, I have chosen the latter.



Now I am searching for a new job and facing a true job seeker's nightmare:



  • interviews being cancelled at the last moment

  • people that tried to recruit me in the past do not even reply to my emails

  • yesterday's interviewers hanging out the phone

  • etc.

Last Friday a friend of mine from the company I have had an absolutely fantastic interview last week, after which I received super short rejection email, told me everyone approved me, but last week they received an email from my current boss telling them not to hire me, because "I am conflicting" and "will certainly cause problems".



Today, I had a quick chat with a union representative and a lawyer. Both told me that technically he is just exercising his freedom of speech and it'll be hard to run a legal action against him, but I should collect all the evidence and proofs of all the interactions between him and me, so I went back to office after work hours and found out that my inbox is missing lots of emails sent to him and HR.



This guy destroyed my reputation and all the evidence of this.



Now I am having a panic attack and trying to calm myself with whiskey while my wife and kids are watching a movie.



How can I prevent my former boss from sabotaging future job opportunities?



TL;DR I have a bullying manager who is very well-connected in the industry and is destroying my reputation.










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My boss has a history of bullying multiple people in the past to work crazy hours to meet absolutely unrealistic deadlines which have led to numerous cases of serious depression and even one (thankfully unsuccessful) attempt of suicide among his employees. I have heard a story of one person getting so depressed, it led to a divorce and him emigrating to another country.



He is known in the industry for developing a start-up company with his partners and selling it for a couple dozen million euros.



In public is a very soft spoken and friendly person. I would say he seems the friendliest person I have ever met, which causes cognitive dissonance in my brain. This is how a lot of other business owners, managers and generally people in the industry know him.



In Sweden, where I live it is a part of the culture to avoid confrontations at all cost, so to what I have seen so far, most people who had any guts to deal with the situation quietly quit.



I have done something stupid. I confronted him publicly and demanded a change. Lots of people supported me privately, but not a single one joined me in the public.



His reaction was cutting my benefits, creating obstructions to my work, not inviting me to meetings, ignoring me, taking away my projects and assigning made up meaningless tasks to me.



I have informed HR and after some behind closed doors talks I was offered either relocation to Germany (as I am German myself) or 6 months pay and resignation. Since I have a mortgage, wife and two preschool kids, I have chosen the latter.



Now I am searching for a new job and facing a true job seeker's nightmare:



  • interviews being cancelled at the last moment

  • people that tried to recruit me in the past do not even reply to my emails

  • yesterday's interviewers hanging out the phone

  • etc.

Last Friday a friend of mine from the company I have had an absolutely fantastic interview last week, after which I received super short rejection email, told me everyone approved me, but last week they received an email from my current boss telling them not to hire me, because "I am conflicting" and "will certainly cause problems".



Today, I had a quick chat with a union representative and a lawyer. Both told me that technically he is just exercising his freedom of speech and it'll be hard to run a legal action against him, but I should collect all the evidence and proofs of all the interactions between him and me, so I went back to office after work hours and found out that my inbox is missing lots of emails sent to him and HR.



This guy destroyed my reputation and all the evidence of this.



Now I am having a panic attack and trying to calm myself with whiskey while my wife and kids are watching a movie.



How can I prevent my former boss from sabotaging future job opportunities?



TL;DR I have a bullying manager who is very well-connected in the industry and is destroying my reputation.







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    If what you described is true, what your former boss did is way past freedom of speech and quite a few steps into defamation and personal harassment zone, talk to a lawyer with expertise in subject matter. Also if your former boss is a public figure, you may also want to contact local press.

    – tweray
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    "I am not exactly sure what my question is" - you might want to think this over a bit and be more clear what you are asking for. You are unlikely to get a good answer without a real question.

    – Joe Strazzere
    6 hours ago






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    How does your current boss know where you are applying for a job?

    – Bernhard
    4 hours ago






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    First of all, stop calming yourself with whiskey.

    – TT_
    3 hours ago






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    Talk further to the lawyer - chances are that emails are backed up, and that just because they have been deleted superficially you could still retrieve copies with a subpoena. If the lawyer doesn't know what you're talking about, change lawyers.

    – George M
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    If what you described is true, what your former boss did is way past freedom of speech and quite a few steps into defamation and personal harassment zone, talk to a lawyer with expertise in subject matter. Also if your former boss is a public figure, you may also want to contact local press.

    – tweray
    6 hours ago







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    "I am not exactly sure what my question is" - you might want to think this over a bit and be more clear what you are asking for. You are unlikely to get a good answer without a real question.

    – Joe Strazzere
    6 hours ago






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    How does your current boss know where you are applying for a job?

    – Bernhard
    4 hours ago






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    First of all, stop calming yourself with whiskey.

    – TT_
    3 hours ago






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    Talk further to the lawyer - chances are that emails are backed up, and that just because they have been deleted superficially you could still retrieve copies with a subpoena. If the lawyer doesn't know what you're talking about, change lawyers.

    – George M
    1 hour ago







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If what you described is true, what your former boss did is way past freedom of speech and quite a few steps into defamation and personal harassment zone, talk to a lawyer with expertise in subject matter. Also if your former boss is a public figure, you may also want to contact local press.

– tweray
6 hours ago






If what you described is true, what your former boss did is way past freedom of speech and quite a few steps into defamation and personal harassment zone, talk to a lawyer with expertise in subject matter. Also if your former boss is a public figure, you may also want to contact local press.

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"I am not exactly sure what my question is" - you might want to think this over a bit and be more clear what you are asking for. You are unlikely to get a good answer without a real question.

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How does your current boss know where you are applying for a job?

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How does your current boss know where you are applying for a job?

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First of all, stop calming yourself with whiskey.

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Talk further to the lawyer - chances are that emails are backed up, and that just because they have been deleted superficially you could still retrieve copies with a subpoena. If the lawyer doesn't know what you're talking about, change lawyers.

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Talk further to the lawyer - chances are that emails are backed up, and that just because they have been deleted superficially you could still retrieve copies with a subpoena. If the lawyer doesn't know what you're talking about, change lawyers.

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I would suggest being forward on fist interview / CV stage and state that XXX have a personal grudge against you and you don`t want to get in to the details due to being non-confrontational person etc.



State that your previous in-company move was due to him hounding you.



This way you would move whatever he says about your from professional to personal grudge level.



I am not very surprised about paper trail being missing, when dealing with such a snake, any evidence anyone may have against him, he would do all in his power to destroy
And when it is his word against yours it comes down to your metaphorical weight in the category you clash.






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  • Thank you for the comment. I might try this. The issue is it will be hard from now on to even get an interview.

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  • @Tobias it would take some time to circulate your relation, but you should start spreading it around in order to move any comments he will have about you to personal level from professional, it would help to have someone on his / higher level to speak well on your behalf. Otherwise you would need to move to your own company or switch industry to something completely non-related

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I think the real problem here is that your boss knows you are looking for employment elsewhere, and also seems to know with whom and when you are interviewing for jobs. How is he getting this information? If you can block his access to this information, he can't run interference on your job hunting.



If the industry is so small that this is not feasible, you may need to consider leaving the industry for another line of work. Some wells cannot be unpoisoned, sadly.






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  • My personal email and phone are secure, so it's unlikely he is getting information from anywhere. It seems he simply "spread the rumor" of "toxic" person looking for a new job in the industry.

    – Tobias
    5 hours ago






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    Or your boss is well connected and those people are reaching out to him to see if he knows anything about you. Any way to leave that company off your resume/CV?

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    There are lots of companies that reach out to your previous employers; this isn't likely something that can stay completely a secret.

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  • @dbeer You can take it off your CV and then when asked about the gap tell them about the horror story

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Last Friday a friend of mind from the company I have had an absolutely fantastic interview last week, after which I received super short rejection email, told me everyone approved me, but last week they received an email from my current boss telling them not to hire me, because "I am conflicting" and "will certainly cause problems".




You should definitely attempt to get this company to hear your side of the story. Assuming you have worked at other companies, your side of the story will be much more compelling with recommendations from other companies you have worked for. Additionally, you should find other people that have quit this company and would be willing to privately vouch for you. This will also bolster your side of things and could be useful for any legal action you might take.




Today, I had a quick chat with a union representative and a lawyer. Both told me that technically he is just exercising his freedom of speech and it'll be hard to run a legal action against him, but I should collect all the evidence and proofs of all the interactions between him and me, so I went back to office after work hours and found out that my inbox is missing lots of emails sent to him and HR.




You should write down everything that happened in detail. Things like:



  • The date you filed a complaint with HR

  • The details of your confrontation, including the motivation for it.

I'm shocked to hear that they say he's exercising his freedom of speech. It seems to go well beyond that, even though the part about winning a settlement being difficult is probably true. However, you can probably get him to stop by getting an attorney to send him a letter threatening legal action if he doesn't stop defaming you (this is usually the first step to a legal battle anyway).



My last suggestion is to reach out to people who you already know in the industry for help. People you know personally shouldn't be scared off by this guy emailing them.






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    posted this story on one Swedish forum and was told a story: (shortened, free translation): ex-colleague of mine sued my previous employer for bullying her after discovering her ethnicity and now her name is in the public registry of court cases, so every time someone googles her name, they find out about the incident and know she has sued her previous employer. She changed name and is currently in the uni obtaining degree in a different field. I'm not 11 and understand that life is not fair, but what the actual f@#$?

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    That's pretty insane; has she faced repercussions?

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    The sad problem is... no, the interviewing company's probably not going to care about 'your' side. Reason? The company isn't out to uncover the truth, they're out to hire someone good for their team. Why bother taking the risk on the OP and misjudging who's to blame? Just find a similar applicant that doesn't have the possibility of such a huge issue hanging over them. Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying this is right, and I definitely feel for the OP... but I don't think it's as simple as "giving your side" to a potential employer.

    – Kevin
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    @Kevin it is definitely worth OP's time. Companies are looking to hire someone who fits their company; if the whole team liked him - as stated - then there's a chance. Additionally, companies often get impatient in hiring and can't always find another good candidate. If I were in the situation I'd give it a go, and I'd at least hear him out if I were on the hiring committee (I am regularly involved in hiring people).

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Don’t know the Swedish law. In other countries you could sue the boss for defamation, and the new company would be asked by the court what exactly they were told (and not giving everything that was said would be a criminal offence).



Contact a lawyer.






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  • He already has, as stated in the question. The lawyer stated that the boss was exercising free speech.

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  • Relating to what @MilkeyWay90 said, you should edit the last line to "contact a new lawyer" and call it good.

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I felt like giving the risky advice here.



First, I find it weird that the lawyer said this was his right of speech. I'm not aware of Sweden legislation, but it's hard to believe he can prevent you from getting a job that effectively without lying and actively seeking your potential employers, and this should be diffamation anywhere in the world. Was this a paid lawyer or some public defender? Consider getting yourself a good well paid lawyer. Even some word games like saying you "will certainly cause problems" is a speculative prediction rather than a fact based comment such as (he caused problems when he was here).



After you do it, or decide it's no use...



Pick a recorder and go talk to your former boss.



First, try to make clear what your reasons were when you confronted him. He might not have seen things from your point of view, so maybe the narrative in his mind is pretty different from that in your mind.



Ask him how he feels about it, if he found it to be that offensive, give him an opportunity to discuss it.



If he is a reasonable person, you might be at better terms at this point of the conversation, if not, continue to the next step anyway.



Ask him about the campaign he's been pushing to make you lose job opportunities. What reason does he possibly have to do so? He can't be that well connected that he just happens to talk with everyone all the time to have the opportunity to share this thoughts about you.



He might answer that he's only been giving his honest opinion upon being asked. If your story is true, he could be lying, and you've got yourself a recorder. I don't know how things go in Sweden, but usual practice is the HR have their methods to find out if you are a problematic person, and call previous employers mostly to confirm past salary and if the passage through said company actually did happen (i.e. they check if you are not lying on your CV). They should normally contact financial people, not the CEO or your direct boss unless you willingly gave them his contact.



Chances are, if your former boss is indeed such a bully, but you've kept your calm, you might have plenty evidence at your hands. I'd expect such person to threaten you after that much questioning. If he is a pretty good liar and kept his calm, you might go on and ask what exactly he's telling your potential employers. My bet is that he heavily exaggerates.



Also question him mentioning things like "what did you mean when wrote me an email saying such and such?". He'll likely lie and contradict you, but the goal is to produce evidence of the email being deleted from your account. him deleting your emails may be considered "evidence destruction", it is a crime in some countries.



Give him a month or so, and he should cease his activities. Wait a few months so he might forget about you. This conversation should have brought him satisfaction and remorse enough if he's not a psychopath. Do consider moving to a bigger city if possible. Consider interrupting your job hunt in the meantime.



But, if things persist, check again with some lawyer if legal action would be that much out of reach.






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    Quick web search shows that audio recording a person without their consent or permission from a court is illegal.

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  • @Tobias, FYI, different legislation in different countries, states, etc have different laws about this. Some places have single consent allowance, meaning only one person in the recording has to know about it to be legal. It's good you researched that before trying it, as you don't want to be the one getting sued.

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There are other people out there who have been his victims in the past. If I were you I would reach out to them individually, explain what you are going through, ask for their help. Linked-In is an easy way to find/contact them if you don't have info handy. If you are presented as a good bet by someone already working in a company, who can explain how toxic your soon-to-be-ex manager is and that he should not be trusted, you have a much better chance to get employed.



Another solution is that you should be looking hard in Germany too. It's highly unlikely that your boss' reputation will extend that far, and he won't be able to block you so effectively. And you will have the native advantage there, which is helpful. You can always get another job in Sweden in a few years, when things settle down, if you still want to. I realize you were trying to minimize disruption to your personal life but you might not have much of a choice.



Lastly, if you are in Sweden you should have easy access to some mental health counseling. Don't overlook how destructive an experience like yours can be, even if you have not quite been driven to suicide. Find a counselor who works with bullying, and work on recovering, you really need that even if you end up happy somewhere else, OK? Also check out http://www.bullyonline.org, you are not alone.






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    I would suggest being forward on fist interview / CV stage and state that XXX have a personal grudge against you and you don`t want to get in to the details due to being non-confrontational person etc.



    State that your previous in-company move was due to him hounding you.



    This way you would move whatever he says about your from professional to personal grudge level.



    I am not very surprised about paper trail being missing, when dealing with such a snake, any evidence anyone may have against him, he would do all in his power to destroy
    And when it is his word against yours it comes down to your metaphorical weight in the category you clash.






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    • Thank you for the comment. I might try this. The issue is it will be hard from now on to even get an interview.

      – Tobias
      6 hours ago











    • @Tobias it would take some time to circulate your relation, but you should start spreading it around in order to move any comments he will have about you to personal level from professional, it would help to have someone on his / higher level to speak well on your behalf. Otherwise you would need to move to your own company or switch industry to something completely non-related

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    I would suggest being forward on fist interview / CV stage and state that XXX have a personal grudge against you and you don`t want to get in to the details due to being non-confrontational person etc.



    State that your previous in-company move was due to him hounding you.



    This way you would move whatever he says about your from professional to personal grudge level.



    I am not very surprised about paper trail being missing, when dealing with such a snake, any evidence anyone may have against him, he would do all in his power to destroy
    And when it is his word against yours it comes down to your metaphorical weight in the category you clash.






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    • Thank you for the comment. I might try this. The issue is it will be hard from now on to even get an interview.

      – Tobias
      6 hours ago











    • @Tobias it would take some time to circulate your relation, but you should start spreading it around in order to move any comments he will have about you to personal level from professional, it would help to have someone on his / higher level to speak well on your behalf. Otherwise you would need to move to your own company or switch industry to something completely non-related

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    I would suggest being forward on fist interview / CV stage and state that XXX have a personal grudge against you and you don`t want to get in to the details due to being non-confrontational person etc.



    State that your previous in-company move was due to him hounding you.



    This way you would move whatever he says about your from professional to personal grudge level.



    I am not very surprised about paper trail being missing, when dealing with such a snake, any evidence anyone may have against him, he would do all in his power to destroy
    And when it is his word against yours it comes down to your metaphorical weight in the category you clash.






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    I would suggest being forward on fist interview / CV stage and state that XXX have a personal grudge against you and you don`t want to get in to the details due to being non-confrontational person etc.



    State that your previous in-company move was due to him hounding you.



    This way you would move whatever he says about your from professional to personal grudge level.



    I am not very surprised about paper trail being missing, when dealing with such a snake, any evidence anyone may have against him, he would do all in his power to destroy
    And when it is his word against yours it comes down to your metaphorical weight in the category you clash.







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    • Thank you for the comment. I might try this. The issue is it will be hard from now on to even get an interview.

      – Tobias
      6 hours ago











    • @Tobias it would take some time to circulate your relation, but you should start spreading it around in order to move any comments he will have about you to personal level from professional, it would help to have someone on his / higher level to speak well on your behalf. Otherwise you would need to move to your own company or switch industry to something completely non-related

      – Strader
      6 hours ago


















    • Thank you for the comment. I might try this. The issue is it will be hard from now on to even get an interview.

      – Tobias
      6 hours ago











    • @Tobias it would take some time to circulate your relation, but you should start spreading it around in order to move any comments he will have about you to personal level from professional, it would help to have someone on his / higher level to speak well on your behalf. Otherwise you would need to move to your own company or switch industry to something completely non-related

      – Strader
      6 hours ago

















    Thank you for the comment. I might try this. The issue is it will be hard from now on to even get an interview.

    – Tobias
    6 hours ago





    Thank you for the comment. I might try this. The issue is it will be hard from now on to even get an interview.

    – Tobias
    6 hours ago













    @Tobias it would take some time to circulate your relation, but you should start spreading it around in order to move any comments he will have about you to personal level from professional, it would help to have someone on his / higher level to speak well on your behalf. Otherwise you would need to move to your own company or switch industry to something completely non-related

    – Strader
    6 hours ago






    @Tobias it would take some time to circulate your relation, but you should start spreading it around in order to move any comments he will have about you to personal level from professional, it would help to have someone on his / higher level to speak well on your behalf. Otherwise you would need to move to your own company or switch industry to something completely non-related

    – Strader
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    I think the real problem here is that your boss knows you are looking for employment elsewhere, and also seems to know with whom and when you are interviewing for jobs. How is he getting this information? If you can block his access to this information, he can't run interference on your job hunting.



    If the industry is so small that this is not feasible, you may need to consider leaving the industry for another line of work. Some wells cannot be unpoisoned, sadly.






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    • My personal email and phone are secure, so it's unlikely he is getting information from anywhere. It seems he simply "spread the rumor" of "toxic" person looking for a new job in the industry.

      – Tobias
      5 hours ago






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      Or your boss is well connected and those people are reaching out to him to see if he knows anything about you. Any way to leave that company off your resume/CV?

      – J. Chris Compton
      5 hours ago






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      There are lots of companies that reach out to your previous employers; this isn't likely something that can stay completely a secret.

      – dbeer
      4 hours ago











    • @dbeer You can take it off your CV and then when asked about the gap tell them about the horror story

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    I think the real problem here is that your boss knows you are looking for employment elsewhere, and also seems to know with whom and when you are interviewing for jobs. How is he getting this information? If you can block his access to this information, he can't run interference on your job hunting.



    If the industry is so small that this is not feasible, you may need to consider leaving the industry for another line of work. Some wells cannot be unpoisoned, sadly.






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    • My personal email and phone are secure, so it's unlikely he is getting information from anywhere. It seems he simply "spread the rumor" of "toxic" person looking for a new job in the industry.

      – Tobias
      5 hours ago






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      Or your boss is well connected and those people are reaching out to him to see if he knows anything about you. Any way to leave that company off your resume/CV?

      – J. Chris Compton
      5 hours ago






    • 5





      There are lots of companies that reach out to your previous employers; this isn't likely something that can stay completely a secret.

      – dbeer
      4 hours ago











    • @dbeer You can take it off your CV and then when asked about the gap tell them about the horror story

      – dan-klasson
      26 mins ago













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    I think the real problem here is that your boss knows you are looking for employment elsewhere, and also seems to know with whom and when you are interviewing for jobs. How is he getting this information? If you can block his access to this information, he can't run interference on your job hunting.



    If the industry is so small that this is not feasible, you may need to consider leaving the industry for another line of work. Some wells cannot be unpoisoned, sadly.






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    I think the real problem here is that your boss knows you are looking for employment elsewhere, and also seems to know with whom and when you are interviewing for jobs. How is he getting this information? If you can block his access to this information, he can't run interference on your job hunting.



    If the industry is so small that this is not feasible, you may need to consider leaving the industry for another line of work. Some wells cannot be unpoisoned, sadly.







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    • My personal email and phone are secure, so it's unlikely he is getting information from anywhere. It seems he simply "spread the rumor" of "toxic" person looking for a new job in the industry.

      – Tobias
      5 hours ago






    • 1





      Or your boss is well connected and those people are reaching out to him to see if he knows anything about you. Any way to leave that company off your resume/CV?

      – J. Chris Compton
      5 hours ago






    • 5





      There are lots of companies that reach out to your previous employers; this isn't likely something that can stay completely a secret.

      – dbeer
      4 hours ago











    • @dbeer You can take it off your CV and then when asked about the gap tell them about the horror story

      – dan-klasson
      26 mins ago

















    • My personal email and phone are secure, so it's unlikely he is getting information from anywhere. It seems he simply "spread the rumor" of "toxic" person looking for a new job in the industry.

      – Tobias
      5 hours ago






    • 1





      Or your boss is well connected and those people are reaching out to him to see if he knows anything about you. Any way to leave that company off your resume/CV?

      – J. Chris Compton
      5 hours ago






    • 5





      There are lots of companies that reach out to your previous employers; this isn't likely something that can stay completely a secret.

      – dbeer
      4 hours ago











    • @dbeer You can take it off your CV and then when asked about the gap tell them about the horror story

      – dan-klasson
      26 mins ago
















    My personal email and phone are secure, so it's unlikely he is getting information from anywhere. It seems he simply "spread the rumor" of "toxic" person looking for a new job in the industry.

    – Tobias
    5 hours ago





    My personal email and phone are secure, so it's unlikely he is getting information from anywhere. It seems he simply "spread the rumor" of "toxic" person looking for a new job in the industry.

    – Tobias
    5 hours ago




    1




    1





    Or your boss is well connected and those people are reaching out to him to see if he knows anything about you. Any way to leave that company off your resume/CV?

    – J. Chris Compton
    5 hours ago





    Or your boss is well connected and those people are reaching out to him to see if he knows anything about you. Any way to leave that company off your resume/CV?

    – J. Chris Compton
    5 hours ago




    5




    5





    There are lots of companies that reach out to your previous employers; this isn't likely something that can stay completely a secret.

    – dbeer
    4 hours ago





    There are lots of companies that reach out to your previous employers; this isn't likely something that can stay completely a secret.

    – dbeer
    4 hours ago













    @dbeer You can take it off your CV and then when asked about the gap tell them about the horror story

    – dan-klasson
    26 mins ago





    @dbeer You can take it off your CV and then when asked about the gap tell them about the horror story

    – dan-klasson
    26 mins ago











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    A few thoughts:




    Last Friday a friend of mind from the company I have had an absolutely fantastic interview last week, after which I received super short rejection email, told me everyone approved me, but last week they received an email from my current boss telling them not to hire me, because "I am conflicting" and "will certainly cause problems".




    You should definitely attempt to get this company to hear your side of the story. Assuming you have worked at other companies, your side of the story will be much more compelling with recommendations from other companies you have worked for. Additionally, you should find other people that have quit this company and would be willing to privately vouch for you. This will also bolster your side of things and could be useful for any legal action you might take.




    Today, I had a quick chat with a union representative and a lawyer. Both told me that technically he is just exercising his freedom of speech and it'll be hard to run a legal action against him, but I should collect all the evidence and proofs of all the interactions between him and me, so I went back to office after work hours and found out that my inbox is missing lots of emails sent to him and HR.




    You should write down everything that happened in detail. Things like:



    • The date you filed a complaint with HR

    • The details of your confrontation, including the motivation for it.

    I'm shocked to hear that they say he's exercising his freedom of speech. It seems to go well beyond that, even though the part about winning a settlement being difficult is probably true. However, you can probably get him to stop by getting an attorney to send him a letter threatening legal action if he doesn't stop defaming you (this is usually the first step to a legal battle anyway).



    My last suggestion is to reach out to people who you already know in the industry for help. People you know personally shouldn't be scared off by this guy emailing them.






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      posted this story on one Swedish forum and was told a story: (shortened, free translation): ex-colleague of mine sued my previous employer for bullying her after discovering her ethnicity and now her name is in the public registry of court cases, so every time someone googles her name, they find out about the incident and know she has sued her previous employer. She changed name and is currently in the uni obtaining degree in a different field. I'm not 11 and understand that life is not fair, but what the actual f@#$?

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      5 hours ago






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      That's pretty insane; has she faced repercussions?

      – dbeer
      4 hours ago






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      The sad problem is... no, the interviewing company's probably not going to care about 'your' side. Reason? The company isn't out to uncover the truth, they're out to hire someone good for their team. Why bother taking the risk on the OP and misjudging who's to blame? Just find a similar applicant that doesn't have the possibility of such a huge issue hanging over them. Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying this is right, and I definitely feel for the OP... but I don't think it's as simple as "giving your side" to a potential employer.

      – Kevin
      4 hours ago






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      @Kevin it is definitely worth OP's time. Companies are looking to hire someone who fits their company; if the whole team liked him - as stated - then there's a chance. Additionally, companies often get impatient in hiring and can't always find another good candidate. If I were in the situation I'd give it a go, and I'd at least hear him out if I were on the hiring committee (I am regularly involved in hiring people).

      – dbeer
      4 hours ago















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    A few thoughts:




    Last Friday a friend of mind from the company I have had an absolutely fantastic interview last week, after which I received super short rejection email, told me everyone approved me, but last week they received an email from my current boss telling them not to hire me, because "I am conflicting" and "will certainly cause problems".




    You should definitely attempt to get this company to hear your side of the story. Assuming you have worked at other companies, your side of the story will be much more compelling with recommendations from other companies you have worked for. Additionally, you should find other people that have quit this company and would be willing to privately vouch for you. This will also bolster your side of things and could be useful for any legal action you might take.




    Today, I had a quick chat with a union representative and a lawyer. Both told me that technically he is just exercising his freedom of speech and it'll be hard to run a legal action against him, but I should collect all the evidence and proofs of all the interactions between him and me, so I went back to office after work hours and found out that my inbox is missing lots of emails sent to him and HR.




    You should write down everything that happened in detail. Things like:



    • The date you filed a complaint with HR

    • The details of your confrontation, including the motivation for it.

    I'm shocked to hear that they say he's exercising his freedom of speech. It seems to go well beyond that, even though the part about winning a settlement being difficult is probably true. However, you can probably get him to stop by getting an attorney to send him a letter threatening legal action if he doesn't stop defaming you (this is usually the first step to a legal battle anyway).



    My last suggestion is to reach out to people who you already know in the industry for help. People you know personally shouldn't be scared off by this guy emailing them.






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    • 4





      posted this story on one Swedish forum and was told a story: (shortened, free translation): ex-colleague of mine sued my previous employer for bullying her after discovering her ethnicity and now her name is in the public registry of court cases, so every time someone googles her name, they find out about the incident and know she has sued her previous employer. She changed name and is currently in the uni obtaining degree in a different field. I'm not 11 and understand that life is not fair, but what the actual f@#$?

      – Tobias
      5 hours ago






    • 1





      That's pretty insane; has she faced repercussions?

      – dbeer
      4 hours ago






    • 5





      The sad problem is... no, the interviewing company's probably not going to care about 'your' side. Reason? The company isn't out to uncover the truth, they're out to hire someone good for their team. Why bother taking the risk on the OP and misjudging who's to blame? Just find a similar applicant that doesn't have the possibility of such a huge issue hanging over them. Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying this is right, and I definitely feel for the OP... but I don't think it's as simple as "giving your side" to a potential employer.

      – Kevin
      4 hours ago






    • 5





      @Kevin it is definitely worth OP's time. Companies are looking to hire someone who fits their company; if the whole team liked him - as stated - then there's a chance. Additionally, companies often get impatient in hiring and can't always find another good candidate. If I were in the situation I'd give it a go, and I'd at least hear him out if I were on the hiring committee (I am regularly involved in hiring people).

      – dbeer
      4 hours ago













    15












    15








    15







    A few thoughts:




    Last Friday a friend of mind from the company I have had an absolutely fantastic interview last week, after which I received super short rejection email, told me everyone approved me, but last week they received an email from my current boss telling them not to hire me, because "I am conflicting" and "will certainly cause problems".




    You should definitely attempt to get this company to hear your side of the story. Assuming you have worked at other companies, your side of the story will be much more compelling with recommendations from other companies you have worked for. Additionally, you should find other people that have quit this company and would be willing to privately vouch for you. This will also bolster your side of things and could be useful for any legal action you might take.




    Today, I had a quick chat with a union representative and a lawyer. Both told me that technically he is just exercising his freedom of speech and it'll be hard to run a legal action against him, but I should collect all the evidence and proofs of all the interactions between him and me, so I went back to office after work hours and found out that my inbox is missing lots of emails sent to him and HR.




    You should write down everything that happened in detail. Things like:



    • The date you filed a complaint with HR

    • The details of your confrontation, including the motivation for it.

    I'm shocked to hear that they say he's exercising his freedom of speech. It seems to go well beyond that, even though the part about winning a settlement being difficult is probably true. However, you can probably get him to stop by getting an attorney to send him a letter threatening legal action if he doesn't stop defaming you (this is usually the first step to a legal battle anyway).



    My last suggestion is to reach out to people who you already know in the industry for help. People you know personally shouldn't be scared off by this guy emailing them.






    share|improve this answer













    A few thoughts:




    Last Friday a friend of mind from the company I have had an absolutely fantastic interview last week, after which I received super short rejection email, told me everyone approved me, but last week they received an email from my current boss telling them not to hire me, because "I am conflicting" and "will certainly cause problems".




    You should definitely attempt to get this company to hear your side of the story. Assuming you have worked at other companies, your side of the story will be much more compelling with recommendations from other companies you have worked for. Additionally, you should find other people that have quit this company and would be willing to privately vouch for you. This will also bolster your side of things and could be useful for any legal action you might take.




    Today, I had a quick chat with a union representative and a lawyer. Both told me that technically he is just exercising his freedom of speech and it'll be hard to run a legal action against him, but I should collect all the evidence and proofs of all the interactions between him and me, so I went back to office after work hours and found out that my inbox is missing lots of emails sent to him and HR.




    You should write down everything that happened in detail. Things like:



    • The date you filed a complaint with HR

    • The details of your confrontation, including the motivation for it.

    I'm shocked to hear that they say he's exercising his freedom of speech. It seems to go well beyond that, even though the part about winning a settlement being difficult is probably true. However, you can probably get him to stop by getting an attorney to send him a letter threatening legal action if he doesn't stop defaming you (this is usually the first step to a legal battle anyway).



    My last suggestion is to reach out to people who you already know in the industry for help. People you know personally shouldn't be scared off by this guy emailing them.







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      posted this story on one Swedish forum and was told a story: (shortened, free translation): ex-colleague of mine sued my previous employer for bullying her after discovering her ethnicity and now her name is in the public registry of court cases, so every time someone googles her name, they find out about the incident and know she has sued her previous employer. She changed name and is currently in the uni obtaining degree in a different field. I'm not 11 and understand that life is not fair, but what the actual f@#$?

      – Tobias
      5 hours ago






    • 1





      That's pretty insane; has she faced repercussions?

      – dbeer
      4 hours ago






    • 5





      The sad problem is... no, the interviewing company's probably not going to care about 'your' side. Reason? The company isn't out to uncover the truth, they're out to hire someone good for their team. Why bother taking the risk on the OP and misjudging who's to blame? Just find a similar applicant that doesn't have the possibility of such a huge issue hanging over them. Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying this is right, and I definitely feel for the OP... but I don't think it's as simple as "giving your side" to a potential employer.

      – Kevin
      4 hours ago






    • 5





      @Kevin it is definitely worth OP's time. Companies are looking to hire someone who fits their company; if the whole team liked him - as stated - then there's a chance. Additionally, companies often get impatient in hiring and can't always find another good candidate. If I were in the situation I'd give it a go, and I'd at least hear him out if I were on the hiring committee (I am regularly involved in hiring people).

      – dbeer
      4 hours ago












    • 4





      posted this story on one Swedish forum and was told a story: (shortened, free translation): ex-colleague of mine sued my previous employer for bullying her after discovering her ethnicity and now her name is in the public registry of court cases, so every time someone googles her name, they find out about the incident and know she has sued her previous employer. She changed name and is currently in the uni obtaining degree in a different field. I'm not 11 and understand that life is not fair, but what the actual f@#$?

      – Tobias
      5 hours ago






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      That's pretty insane; has she faced repercussions?

      – dbeer
      4 hours ago






    • 5





      The sad problem is... no, the interviewing company's probably not going to care about 'your' side. Reason? The company isn't out to uncover the truth, they're out to hire someone good for their team. Why bother taking the risk on the OP and misjudging who's to blame? Just find a similar applicant that doesn't have the possibility of such a huge issue hanging over them. Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying this is right, and I definitely feel for the OP... but I don't think it's as simple as "giving your side" to a potential employer.

      – Kevin
      4 hours ago






    • 5





      @Kevin it is definitely worth OP's time. Companies are looking to hire someone who fits their company; if the whole team liked him - as stated - then there's a chance. Additionally, companies often get impatient in hiring and can't always find another good candidate. If I were in the situation I'd give it a go, and I'd at least hear him out if I were on the hiring committee (I am regularly involved in hiring people).

      – dbeer
      4 hours ago







    4




    4





    posted this story on one Swedish forum and was told a story: (shortened, free translation): ex-colleague of mine sued my previous employer for bullying her after discovering her ethnicity and now her name is in the public registry of court cases, so every time someone googles her name, they find out about the incident and know she has sued her previous employer. She changed name and is currently in the uni obtaining degree in a different field. I'm not 11 and understand that life is not fair, but what the actual f@#$?

    – Tobias
    5 hours ago





    posted this story on one Swedish forum and was told a story: (shortened, free translation): ex-colleague of mine sued my previous employer for bullying her after discovering her ethnicity and now her name is in the public registry of court cases, so every time someone googles her name, they find out about the incident and know she has sued her previous employer. She changed name and is currently in the uni obtaining degree in a different field. I'm not 11 and understand that life is not fair, but what the actual f@#$?

    – Tobias
    5 hours ago




    1




    1





    That's pretty insane; has she faced repercussions?

    – dbeer
    4 hours ago





    That's pretty insane; has she faced repercussions?

    – dbeer
    4 hours ago




    5




    5





    The sad problem is... no, the interviewing company's probably not going to care about 'your' side. Reason? The company isn't out to uncover the truth, they're out to hire someone good for their team. Why bother taking the risk on the OP and misjudging who's to blame? Just find a similar applicant that doesn't have the possibility of such a huge issue hanging over them. Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying this is right, and I definitely feel for the OP... but I don't think it's as simple as "giving your side" to a potential employer.

    – Kevin
    4 hours ago





    The sad problem is... no, the interviewing company's probably not going to care about 'your' side. Reason? The company isn't out to uncover the truth, they're out to hire someone good for their team. Why bother taking the risk on the OP and misjudging who's to blame? Just find a similar applicant that doesn't have the possibility of such a huge issue hanging over them. Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying this is right, and I definitely feel for the OP... but I don't think it's as simple as "giving your side" to a potential employer.

    – Kevin
    4 hours ago




    5




    5





    @Kevin it is definitely worth OP's time. Companies are looking to hire someone who fits their company; if the whole team liked him - as stated - then there's a chance. Additionally, companies often get impatient in hiring and can't always find another good candidate. If I were in the situation I'd give it a go, and I'd at least hear him out if I were on the hiring committee (I am regularly involved in hiring people).

    – dbeer
    4 hours ago





    @Kevin it is definitely worth OP's time. Companies are looking to hire someone who fits their company; if the whole team liked him - as stated - then there's a chance. Additionally, companies often get impatient in hiring and can't always find another good candidate. If I were in the situation I'd give it a go, and I'd at least hear him out if I were on the hiring committee (I am regularly involved in hiring people).

    – dbeer
    4 hours ago











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    Don’t know the Swedish law. In other countries you could sue the boss for defamation, and the new company would be asked by the court what exactly they were told (and not giving everything that was said would be a criminal offence).



    Contact a lawyer.






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    • He already has, as stated in the question. The lawyer stated that the boss was exercising free speech.

      – MilkyWay90
      32 mins ago











    • Relating to what @MilkeyWay90 said, you should edit the last line to "contact a new lawyer" and call it good.

      – user87779
      6 mins ago















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    Don’t know the Swedish law. In other countries you could sue the boss for defamation, and the new company would be asked by the court what exactly they were told (and not giving everything that was said would be a criminal offence).



    Contact a lawyer.






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    • He already has, as stated in the question. The lawyer stated that the boss was exercising free speech.

      – MilkyWay90
      32 mins ago











    • Relating to what @MilkeyWay90 said, you should edit the last line to "contact a new lawyer" and call it good.

      – user87779
      6 mins ago













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    Don’t know the Swedish law. In other countries you could sue the boss for defamation, and the new company would be asked by the court what exactly they were told (and not giving everything that was said would be a criminal offence).



    Contact a lawyer.






    share|improve this answer













    Don’t know the Swedish law. In other countries you could sue the boss for defamation, and the new company would be asked by the court what exactly they were told (and not giving everything that was said would be a criminal offence).



    Contact a lawyer.







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    gnasher729gnasher729

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    • He already has, as stated in the question. The lawyer stated that the boss was exercising free speech.

      – MilkyWay90
      32 mins ago











    • Relating to what @MilkeyWay90 said, you should edit the last line to "contact a new lawyer" and call it good.

      – user87779
      6 mins ago

















    • He already has, as stated in the question. The lawyer stated that the boss was exercising free speech.

      – MilkyWay90
      32 mins ago











    • Relating to what @MilkeyWay90 said, you should edit the last line to "contact a new lawyer" and call it good.

      – user87779
      6 mins ago
















    He already has, as stated in the question. The lawyer stated that the boss was exercising free speech.

    – MilkyWay90
    32 mins ago





    He already has, as stated in the question. The lawyer stated that the boss was exercising free speech.

    – MilkyWay90
    32 mins ago













    Relating to what @MilkeyWay90 said, you should edit the last line to "contact a new lawyer" and call it good.

    – user87779
    6 mins ago





    Relating to what @MilkeyWay90 said, you should edit the last line to "contact a new lawyer" and call it good.

    – user87779
    6 mins ago











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    I felt like giving the risky advice here.



    First, I find it weird that the lawyer said this was his right of speech. I'm not aware of Sweden legislation, but it's hard to believe he can prevent you from getting a job that effectively without lying and actively seeking your potential employers, and this should be diffamation anywhere in the world. Was this a paid lawyer or some public defender? Consider getting yourself a good well paid lawyer. Even some word games like saying you "will certainly cause problems" is a speculative prediction rather than a fact based comment such as (he caused problems when he was here).



    After you do it, or decide it's no use...



    Pick a recorder and go talk to your former boss.



    First, try to make clear what your reasons were when you confronted him. He might not have seen things from your point of view, so maybe the narrative in his mind is pretty different from that in your mind.



    Ask him how he feels about it, if he found it to be that offensive, give him an opportunity to discuss it.



    If he is a reasonable person, you might be at better terms at this point of the conversation, if not, continue to the next step anyway.



    Ask him about the campaign he's been pushing to make you lose job opportunities. What reason does he possibly have to do so? He can't be that well connected that he just happens to talk with everyone all the time to have the opportunity to share this thoughts about you.



    He might answer that he's only been giving his honest opinion upon being asked. If your story is true, he could be lying, and you've got yourself a recorder. I don't know how things go in Sweden, but usual practice is the HR have their methods to find out if you are a problematic person, and call previous employers mostly to confirm past salary and if the passage through said company actually did happen (i.e. they check if you are not lying on your CV). They should normally contact financial people, not the CEO or your direct boss unless you willingly gave them his contact.



    Chances are, if your former boss is indeed such a bully, but you've kept your calm, you might have plenty evidence at your hands. I'd expect such person to threaten you after that much questioning. If he is a pretty good liar and kept his calm, you might go on and ask what exactly he's telling your potential employers. My bet is that he heavily exaggerates.



    Also question him mentioning things like "what did you mean when wrote me an email saying such and such?". He'll likely lie and contradict you, but the goal is to produce evidence of the email being deleted from your account. him deleting your emails may be considered "evidence destruction", it is a crime in some countries.



    Give him a month or so, and he should cease his activities. Wait a few months so he might forget about you. This conversation should have brought him satisfaction and remorse enough if he's not a psychopath. Do consider moving to a bigger city if possible. Consider interrupting your job hunt in the meantime.



    But, if things persist, check again with some lawyer if legal action would be that much out of reach.






    share|improve this answer


















    • 1





      Quick web search shows that audio recording a person without their consent or permission from a court is illegal.

      – Tobias
      4 hours ago











    • @Tobias, FYI, different legislation in different countries, states, etc have different laws about this. Some places have single consent allowance, meaning only one person in the recording has to know about it to be legal. It's good you researched that before trying it, as you don't want to be the one getting sued.

      – computercarguy
      39 mins ago















    2














    I felt like giving the risky advice here.



    First, I find it weird that the lawyer said this was his right of speech. I'm not aware of Sweden legislation, but it's hard to believe he can prevent you from getting a job that effectively without lying and actively seeking your potential employers, and this should be diffamation anywhere in the world. Was this a paid lawyer or some public defender? Consider getting yourself a good well paid lawyer. Even some word games like saying you "will certainly cause problems" is a speculative prediction rather than a fact based comment such as (he caused problems when he was here).



    After you do it, or decide it's no use...



    Pick a recorder and go talk to your former boss.



    First, try to make clear what your reasons were when you confronted him. He might not have seen things from your point of view, so maybe the narrative in his mind is pretty different from that in your mind.



    Ask him how he feels about it, if he found it to be that offensive, give him an opportunity to discuss it.



    If he is a reasonable person, you might be at better terms at this point of the conversation, if not, continue to the next step anyway.



    Ask him about the campaign he's been pushing to make you lose job opportunities. What reason does he possibly have to do so? He can't be that well connected that he just happens to talk with everyone all the time to have the opportunity to share this thoughts about you.



    He might answer that he's only been giving his honest opinion upon being asked. If your story is true, he could be lying, and you've got yourself a recorder. I don't know how things go in Sweden, but usual practice is the HR have their methods to find out if you are a problematic person, and call previous employers mostly to confirm past salary and if the passage through said company actually did happen (i.e. they check if you are not lying on your CV). They should normally contact financial people, not the CEO or your direct boss unless you willingly gave them his contact.



    Chances are, if your former boss is indeed such a bully, but you've kept your calm, you might have plenty evidence at your hands. I'd expect such person to threaten you after that much questioning. If he is a pretty good liar and kept his calm, you might go on and ask what exactly he's telling your potential employers. My bet is that he heavily exaggerates.



    Also question him mentioning things like "what did you mean when wrote me an email saying such and such?". He'll likely lie and contradict you, but the goal is to produce evidence of the email being deleted from your account. him deleting your emails may be considered "evidence destruction", it is a crime in some countries.



    Give him a month or so, and he should cease his activities. Wait a few months so he might forget about you. This conversation should have brought him satisfaction and remorse enough if he's not a psychopath. Do consider moving to a bigger city if possible. Consider interrupting your job hunt in the meantime.



    But, if things persist, check again with some lawyer if legal action would be that much out of reach.






    share|improve this answer


















    • 1





      Quick web search shows that audio recording a person without their consent or permission from a court is illegal.

      – Tobias
      4 hours ago











    • @Tobias, FYI, different legislation in different countries, states, etc have different laws about this. Some places have single consent allowance, meaning only one person in the recording has to know about it to be legal. It's good you researched that before trying it, as you don't want to be the one getting sued.

      – computercarguy
      39 mins ago













    2












    2








    2







    I felt like giving the risky advice here.



    First, I find it weird that the lawyer said this was his right of speech. I'm not aware of Sweden legislation, but it's hard to believe he can prevent you from getting a job that effectively without lying and actively seeking your potential employers, and this should be diffamation anywhere in the world. Was this a paid lawyer or some public defender? Consider getting yourself a good well paid lawyer. Even some word games like saying you "will certainly cause problems" is a speculative prediction rather than a fact based comment such as (he caused problems when he was here).



    After you do it, or decide it's no use...



    Pick a recorder and go talk to your former boss.



    First, try to make clear what your reasons were when you confronted him. He might not have seen things from your point of view, so maybe the narrative in his mind is pretty different from that in your mind.



    Ask him how he feels about it, if he found it to be that offensive, give him an opportunity to discuss it.



    If he is a reasonable person, you might be at better terms at this point of the conversation, if not, continue to the next step anyway.



    Ask him about the campaign he's been pushing to make you lose job opportunities. What reason does he possibly have to do so? He can't be that well connected that he just happens to talk with everyone all the time to have the opportunity to share this thoughts about you.



    He might answer that he's only been giving his honest opinion upon being asked. If your story is true, he could be lying, and you've got yourself a recorder. I don't know how things go in Sweden, but usual practice is the HR have their methods to find out if you are a problematic person, and call previous employers mostly to confirm past salary and if the passage through said company actually did happen (i.e. they check if you are not lying on your CV). They should normally contact financial people, not the CEO or your direct boss unless you willingly gave them his contact.



    Chances are, if your former boss is indeed such a bully, but you've kept your calm, you might have plenty evidence at your hands. I'd expect such person to threaten you after that much questioning. If he is a pretty good liar and kept his calm, you might go on and ask what exactly he's telling your potential employers. My bet is that he heavily exaggerates.



    Also question him mentioning things like "what did you mean when wrote me an email saying such and such?". He'll likely lie and contradict you, but the goal is to produce evidence of the email being deleted from your account. him deleting your emails may be considered "evidence destruction", it is a crime in some countries.



    Give him a month or so, and he should cease his activities. Wait a few months so he might forget about you. This conversation should have brought him satisfaction and remorse enough if he's not a psychopath. Do consider moving to a bigger city if possible. Consider interrupting your job hunt in the meantime.



    But, if things persist, check again with some lawyer if legal action would be that much out of reach.






    share|improve this answer













    I felt like giving the risky advice here.



    First, I find it weird that the lawyer said this was his right of speech. I'm not aware of Sweden legislation, but it's hard to believe he can prevent you from getting a job that effectively without lying and actively seeking your potential employers, and this should be diffamation anywhere in the world. Was this a paid lawyer or some public defender? Consider getting yourself a good well paid lawyer. Even some word games like saying you "will certainly cause problems" is a speculative prediction rather than a fact based comment such as (he caused problems when he was here).



    After you do it, or decide it's no use...



    Pick a recorder and go talk to your former boss.



    First, try to make clear what your reasons were when you confronted him. He might not have seen things from your point of view, so maybe the narrative in his mind is pretty different from that in your mind.



    Ask him how he feels about it, if he found it to be that offensive, give him an opportunity to discuss it.



    If he is a reasonable person, you might be at better terms at this point of the conversation, if not, continue to the next step anyway.



    Ask him about the campaign he's been pushing to make you lose job opportunities. What reason does he possibly have to do so? He can't be that well connected that he just happens to talk with everyone all the time to have the opportunity to share this thoughts about you.



    He might answer that he's only been giving his honest opinion upon being asked. If your story is true, he could be lying, and you've got yourself a recorder. I don't know how things go in Sweden, but usual practice is the HR have their methods to find out if you are a problematic person, and call previous employers mostly to confirm past salary and if the passage through said company actually did happen (i.e. they check if you are not lying on your CV). They should normally contact financial people, not the CEO or your direct boss unless you willingly gave them his contact.



    Chances are, if your former boss is indeed such a bully, but you've kept your calm, you might have plenty evidence at your hands. I'd expect such person to threaten you after that much questioning. If he is a pretty good liar and kept his calm, you might go on and ask what exactly he's telling your potential employers. My bet is that he heavily exaggerates.



    Also question him mentioning things like "what did you mean when wrote me an email saying such and such?". He'll likely lie and contradict you, but the goal is to produce evidence of the email being deleted from your account. him deleting your emails may be considered "evidence destruction", it is a crime in some countries.



    Give him a month or so, and he should cease his activities. Wait a few months so he might forget about you. This conversation should have brought him satisfaction and remorse enough if he's not a psychopath. Do consider moving to a bigger city if possible. Consider interrupting your job hunt in the meantime.



    But, if things persist, check again with some lawyer if legal action would be that much out of reach.







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    MefiticoMefitico

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    • 1





      Quick web search shows that audio recording a person without their consent or permission from a court is illegal.

      – Tobias
      4 hours ago











    • @Tobias, FYI, different legislation in different countries, states, etc have different laws about this. Some places have single consent allowance, meaning only one person in the recording has to know about it to be legal. It's good you researched that before trying it, as you don't want to be the one getting sued.

      – computercarguy
      39 mins ago












    • 1





      Quick web search shows that audio recording a person without their consent or permission from a court is illegal.

      – Tobias
      4 hours ago











    • @Tobias, FYI, different legislation in different countries, states, etc have different laws about this. Some places have single consent allowance, meaning only one person in the recording has to know about it to be legal. It's good you researched that before trying it, as you don't want to be the one getting sued.

      – computercarguy
      39 mins ago







    1




    1





    Quick web search shows that audio recording a person without their consent or permission from a court is illegal.

    – Tobias
    4 hours ago





    Quick web search shows that audio recording a person without their consent or permission from a court is illegal.

    – Tobias
    4 hours ago













    @Tobias, FYI, different legislation in different countries, states, etc have different laws about this. Some places have single consent allowance, meaning only one person in the recording has to know about it to be legal. It's good you researched that before trying it, as you don't want to be the one getting sued.

    – computercarguy
    39 mins ago





    @Tobias, FYI, different legislation in different countries, states, etc have different laws about this. Some places have single consent allowance, meaning only one person in the recording has to know about it to be legal. It's good you researched that before trying it, as you don't want to be the one getting sued.

    – computercarguy
    39 mins ago











    1














    There are other people out there who have been his victims in the past. If I were you I would reach out to them individually, explain what you are going through, ask for their help. Linked-In is an easy way to find/contact them if you don't have info handy. If you are presented as a good bet by someone already working in a company, who can explain how toxic your soon-to-be-ex manager is and that he should not be trusted, you have a much better chance to get employed.



    Another solution is that you should be looking hard in Germany too. It's highly unlikely that your boss' reputation will extend that far, and he won't be able to block you so effectively. And you will have the native advantage there, which is helpful. You can always get another job in Sweden in a few years, when things settle down, if you still want to. I realize you were trying to minimize disruption to your personal life but you might not have much of a choice.



    Lastly, if you are in Sweden you should have easy access to some mental health counseling. Don't overlook how destructive an experience like yours can be, even if you have not quite been driven to suicide. Find a counselor who works with bullying, and work on recovering, you really need that even if you end up happy somewhere else, OK? Also check out http://www.bullyonline.org, you are not alone.






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      There are other people out there who have been his victims in the past. If I were you I would reach out to them individually, explain what you are going through, ask for their help. Linked-In is an easy way to find/contact them if you don't have info handy. If you are presented as a good bet by someone already working in a company, who can explain how toxic your soon-to-be-ex manager is and that he should not be trusted, you have a much better chance to get employed.



      Another solution is that you should be looking hard in Germany too. It's highly unlikely that your boss' reputation will extend that far, and he won't be able to block you so effectively. And you will have the native advantage there, which is helpful. You can always get another job in Sweden in a few years, when things settle down, if you still want to. I realize you were trying to minimize disruption to your personal life but you might not have much of a choice.



      Lastly, if you are in Sweden you should have easy access to some mental health counseling. Don't overlook how destructive an experience like yours can be, even if you have not quite been driven to suicide. Find a counselor who works with bullying, and work on recovering, you really need that even if you end up happy somewhere else, OK? Also check out http://www.bullyonline.org, you are not alone.






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        1







        There are other people out there who have been his victims in the past. If I were you I would reach out to them individually, explain what you are going through, ask for their help. Linked-In is an easy way to find/contact them if you don't have info handy. If you are presented as a good bet by someone already working in a company, who can explain how toxic your soon-to-be-ex manager is and that he should not be trusted, you have a much better chance to get employed.



        Another solution is that you should be looking hard in Germany too. It's highly unlikely that your boss' reputation will extend that far, and he won't be able to block you so effectively. And you will have the native advantage there, which is helpful. You can always get another job in Sweden in a few years, when things settle down, if you still want to. I realize you were trying to minimize disruption to your personal life but you might not have much of a choice.



        Lastly, if you are in Sweden you should have easy access to some mental health counseling. Don't overlook how destructive an experience like yours can be, even if you have not quite been driven to suicide. Find a counselor who works with bullying, and work on recovering, you really need that even if you end up happy somewhere else, OK? Also check out http://www.bullyonline.org, you are not alone.






        share|improve this answer













        There are other people out there who have been his victims in the past. If I were you I would reach out to them individually, explain what you are going through, ask for their help. Linked-In is an easy way to find/contact them if you don't have info handy. If you are presented as a good bet by someone already working in a company, who can explain how toxic your soon-to-be-ex manager is and that he should not be trusted, you have a much better chance to get employed.



        Another solution is that you should be looking hard in Germany too. It's highly unlikely that your boss' reputation will extend that far, and he won't be able to block you so effectively. And you will have the native advantage there, which is helpful. You can always get another job in Sweden in a few years, when things settle down, if you still want to. I realize you were trying to minimize disruption to your personal life but you might not have much of a choice.



        Lastly, if you are in Sweden you should have easy access to some mental health counseling. Don't overlook how destructive an experience like yours can be, even if you have not quite been driven to suicide. Find a counselor who works with bullying, and work on recovering, you really need that even if you end up happy somewhere else, OK? Also check out http://www.bullyonline.org, you are not alone.







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