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What helicopter has the most rotor blades?



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I have seen 2 rotor blades up to many and wonder when does having more rotor blades become less efficient? What helicopter has the most rotor blades?



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    If the blades are longer it has to spin slower to keep the tips from going supersonic. They are also heavier and harder to control
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    Unlikely. Chipped/mildly damaged blades can still fly, but once they fail structurally the entire rotor is unbalanced an no amount of extra blades is going to make it stabilize. It will shake itself apart as soon as it becomes unbalanced enough.
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    when does having more rotor blades become less efficient? -- any number more than one. The problem is if you need more lift then you need to use longer blades but if you cannot increase blade length due to structural issues and/or storage issues then you have no choice but to sacrifice efficiency for more lifting power. A single blade is ALWAYS the most efficient number of blades.
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I have seen 2 rotor blades up to many and wonder when does having more rotor blades become less efficient? What helicopter has the most rotor blades?



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    If the blades are longer it has to spin slower to keep the tips from going supersonic. They are also heavier and harder to control
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    – Ron Beyer
    3 hours ago






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    @RonBeyer do you think redundancy of having more blades could allow the helicopter to fly with damaged blades?
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    Unlikely. Chipped/mildly damaged blades can still fly, but once they fail structurally the entire rotor is unbalanced an no amount of extra blades is going to make it stabilize. It will shake itself apart as soon as it becomes unbalanced enough.
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    – Ron Beyer
    3 hours ago










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    when does having more rotor blades become less efficient? -- any number more than one. The problem is if you need more lift then you need to use longer blades but if you cannot increase blade length due to structural issues and/or storage issues then you have no choice but to sacrifice efficiency for more lifting power. A single blade is ALWAYS the most efficient number of blades.
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I have seen 2 rotor blades up to many and wonder when does having more rotor blades become less efficient? What helicopter has the most rotor blades?



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    $begingroup$
    If the blades are longer it has to spin slower to keep the tips from going supersonic. They are also heavier and harder to control
    $endgroup$
    – Ron Beyer
    3 hours ago






  • 1




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    @RonBeyer do you think redundancy of having more blades could allow the helicopter to fly with damaged blades?
    $endgroup$
    – Muze
    3 hours ago







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    $begingroup$
    Unlikely. Chipped/mildly damaged blades can still fly, but once they fail structurally the entire rotor is unbalanced an no amount of extra blades is going to make it stabilize. It will shake itself apart as soon as it becomes unbalanced enough.
    $endgroup$
    – Ron Beyer
    3 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    when does having more rotor blades become less efficient? -- any number more than one. The problem is if you need more lift then you need to use longer blades but if you cannot increase blade length due to structural issues and/or storage issues then you have no choice but to sacrifice efficiency for more lifting power. A single blade is ALWAYS the most efficient number of blades.
    $endgroup$
    – slebetman
    30 mins ago












  • 3




    $begingroup$
    If the blades are longer it has to spin slower to keep the tips from going supersonic. They are also heavier and harder to control
    $endgroup$
    – Ron Beyer
    3 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @RonBeyer do you think redundancy of having more blades could allow the helicopter to fly with damaged blades?
    $endgroup$
    – Muze
    3 hours ago







  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Unlikely. Chipped/mildly damaged blades can still fly, but once they fail structurally the entire rotor is unbalanced an no amount of extra blades is going to make it stabilize. It will shake itself apart as soon as it becomes unbalanced enough.
    $endgroup$
    – Ron Beyer
    3 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    when does having more rotor blades become less efficient? -- any number more than one. The problem is if you need more lift then you need to use longer blades but if you cannot increase blade length due to structural issues and/or storage issues then you have no choice but to sacrifice efficiency for more lifting power. A single blade is ALWAYS the most efficient number of blades.
    $endgroup$
    – slebetman
    30 mins ago







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$begingroup$
If the blades are longer it has to spin slower to keep the tips from going supersonic. They are also heavier and harder to control
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
3 hours ago




$begingroup$
If the blades are longer it has to spin slower to keep the tips from going supersonic. They are also heavier and harder to control
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
3 hours ago




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@RonBeyer do you think redundancy of having more blades could allow the helicopter to fly with damaged blades?
$endgroup$
– Muze
3 hours ago





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@RonBeyer do you think redundancy of having more blades could allow the helicopter to fly with damaged blades?
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Unlikely. Chipped/mildly damaged blades can still fly, but once they fail structurally the entire rotor is unbalanced an no amount of extra blades is going to make it stabilize. It will shake itself apart as soon as it becomes unbalanced enough.
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
3 hours ago




$begingroup$
Unlikely. Chipped/mildly damaged blades can still fly, but once they fail structurally the entire rotor is unbalanced an no amount of extra blades is going to make it stabilize. It will shake itself apart as soon as it becomes unbalanced enough.
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
3 hours ago












$begingroup$
when does having more rotor blades become less efficient? -- any number more than one. The problem is if you need more lift then you need to use longer blades but if you cannot increase blade length due to structural issues and/or storage issues then you have no choice but to sacrifice efficiency for more lifting power. A single blade is ALWAYS the most efficient number of blades.
$endgroup$
– slebetman
30 mins ago




$begingroup$
when does having more rotor blades become less efficient? -- any number more than one. The problem is if you need more lift then you need to use longer blades but if you cannot increase blade length due to structural issues and/or storage issues then you have no choice but to sacrifice efficiency for more lifting power. A single blade is ALWAYS the most efficient number of blades.
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The most I've seen are 8 Mi-26. But the highest theoretical lifting efficiency is achieved with the fewest blades and experiments have been done with single blade rotors (with a counterweight - there were vibration problems that couldn't be resolved).



So in practical terms, the most lift for the least power is achieved with a 2 blade rotor, but the need to absorb more power with a limited desirable disc diameter forces you to add more blades (or you may want a smaller rotor with lots of blades for maneuverability or other reasons, but it's sub-optimal from a horsepower efficiency standpoint).



Put another way, a helicopter like the Mi-26 could probably achieve a fair bit more lifting power for its installed horsepower with a 2 blade rotor, but each blade would seemingly extend off into the next township.






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    The most I've seen are 8 Mi-26. But the highest theoretical lifting efficiency is achieved with the fewest blades and experiments have been done with single blade rotors (with a counterweight - there were vibration problems that couldn't be resolved).



    So in practical terms, the most lift for the least power is achieved with a 2 blade rotor, but the need to absorb more power with a limited desirable disc diameter forces you to add more blades (or you may want a smaller rotor with lots of blades for maneuverability or other reasons, but it's sub-optimal from a horsepower efficiency standpoint).



    Put another way, a helicopter like the Mi-26 could probably achieve a fair bit more lifting power for its installed horsepower with a 2 blade rotor, but each blade would seemingly extend off into the next township.






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      The most I've seen are 8 Mi-26. But the highest theoretical lifting efficiency is achieved with the fewest blades and experiments have been done with single blade rotors (with a counterweight - there were vibration problems that couldn't be resolved).



      So in practical terms, the most lift for the least power is achieved with a 2 blade rotor, but the need to absorb more power with a limited desirable disc diameter forces you to add more blades (or you may want a smaller rotor with lots of blades for maneuverability or other reasons, but it's sub-optimal from a horsepower efficiency standpoint).



      Put another way, a helicopter like the Mi-26 could probably achieve a fair bit more lifting power for its installed horsepower with a 2 blade rotor, but each blade would seemingly extend off into the next township.






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        The most I've seen are 8 Mi-26. But the highest theoretical lifting efficiency is achieved with the fewest blades and experiments have been done with single blade rotors (with a counterweight - there were vibration problems that couldn't be resolved).



        So in practical terms, the most lift for the least power is achieved with a 2 blade rotor, but the need to absorb more power with a limited desirable disc diameter forces you to add more blades (or you may want a smaller rotor with lots of blades for maneuverability or other reasons, but it's sub-optimal from a horsepower efficiency standpoint).



        Put another way, a helicopter like the Mi-26 could probably achieve a fair bit more lifting power for its installed horsepower with a 2 blade rotor, but each blade would seemingly extend off into the next township.






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        The most I've seen are 8 Mi-26. But the highest theoretical lifting efficiency is achieved with the fewest blades and experiments have been done with single blade rotors (with a counterweight - there were vibration problems that couldn't be resolved).



        So in practical terms, the most lift for the least power is achieved with a 2 blade rotor, but the need to absorb more power with a limited desirable disc diameter forces you to add more blades (or you may want a smaller rotor with lots of blades for maneuverability or other reasons, but it's sub-optimal from a horsepower efficiency standpoint).



        Put another way, a helicopter like the Mi-26 could probably achieve a fair bit more lifting power for its installed horsepower with a 2 blade rotor, but each blade would seemingly extend off into the next township.







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