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“Whose” combined with “all”, “every” etc
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Proper way to handle plurals with “whose”Is a sentence always grammatically incorrect if it has no verb?What’s wrong with “… enforce that …”“Every” being used instead of “ever”?“We're all each other has”Everyone vs every one vs allRight way to use transition “above all”“Which” instead of “whose” for inanimate objectsCan the relative pronoun “whose” be replaced by “of whom/which” in relative clauses?'all the following are' OR 'the following are all'
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Look at the following phrases (from mathematical texts):
(1) a manifold all of whose geodesics are closed
(2) a manifold whose geodesics are all closed
(3) a manifold each of whose geodesics is closed
(4) a manifold whose all geodesics are closed
(5) a manifold whose every geodesic is closed
Is it true that (1) to (3) are better English (grammatically and/or idiomatically) than (4) and (5)? Or maybe the last two are incorrect?
grammaticality
asked 6 hours ago
Jerzy TrzeciakJerzy Trzeciak
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Look at the following phrases (from mathematical texts):
(1) a manifold all of whose geodesics are closed
(2) a manifold whose geodesics are all closed
(3) a manifold each of whose geodesics is closed
(4) a manifold whose all geodesics are closed
(5) a manifold whose every geodesic is closed
Is it true that (1) to (3) are better English (grammatically and/or idiomatically) than (4) and (5)? Or maybe the last two are incorrect?
grammaticality
asked 6 hours ago
Jerzy TrzeciakJerzy Trzeciak
312
1
(4) is ungrammatical and (5) is marginal. Of the rest, (2) is the best; pied-piping with quantifiers is quite complex, whereas quantifier-float removes all the complexities.
– John Lawler
5 hours ago
1
There are some people who claim that 'whose' can only refer to persons, not things, such as manifolds. They would have to say "a manifold, all the geodesics of which are closed". Although their reasoning is suspect (there is no such 'rule'), in this particular case the formulation with 'which' seems to me no more ugly than your (1) and (3). But it is really a mater of style to choose between them.
– JeremyC
4 hours ago
add a comment |
Look at the following phrases (from mathematical texts):
(1) a manifold all of whose geodesics are closed
(2) a manifold whose geodesics are all closed
(3) a manifold each of whose geodesics is closed
(4) a manifold whose all geodesics are closed
(5) a manifold whose every geodesic is closed
Is it true that (1) to (3) are better English (grammatically and/or idiomatically) than (4) and (5)? Or maybe the last two are incorrect?
grammaticality
asked 6 hours ago
Jerzy TrzeciakJerzy Trzeciak
312
Look at the following phrases (from mathematical texts):
(1) a manifold all of whose geodesics are closed
(2) a manifold whose geodesics are all closed
(3) a manifold each of whose geodesics is closed
(4) a manifold whose all geodesics are closed
(5) a manifold whose every geodesic is closed
Is it true that (1) to (3) are better English (grammatically and/or idiomatically) than (4) and (5)? Or maybe the last two are incorrect?
grammaticality
grammaticality
asked 6 hours ago
Jerzy TrzeciakJerzy Trzeciak
312
asked 6 hours ago
Jerzy TrzeciakJerzy Trzeciak
312
asked 6 hours ago
Jerzy TrzeciakJerzy Trzeciak
312
asked 6 hours ago
Jerzy TrzeciakJerzy Trzeciak
312
asked 6 hours ago
Jerzy TrzeciakJerzy Trzeciak
312
312
1
(4) is ungrammatical and (5) is marginal. Of the rest, (2) is the best; pied-piping with quantifiers is quite complex, whereas quantifier-float removes all the complexities.
– John Lawler
5 hours ago
1
There are some people who claim that 'whose' can only refer to persons, not things, such as manifolds. They would have to say "a manifold, all the geodesics of which are closed". Although their reasoning is suspect (there is no such 'rule'), in this particular case the formulation with 'which' seems to me no more ugly than your (1) and (3). But it is really a mater of style to choose between them.
– JeremyC
4 hours ago
add a comment |
1
(4) is ungrammatical and (5) is marginal. Of the rest, (2) is the best; pied-piping with quantifiers is quite complex, whereas quantifier-float removes all the complexities.
– John Lawler
5 hours ago
1
There are some people who claim that 'whose' can only refer to persons, not things, such as manifolds. They would have to say "a manifold, all the geodesics of which are closed". Although their reasoning is suspect (there is no such 'rule'), in this particular case the formulation with 'which' seems to me no more ugly than your (1) and (3). But it is really a mater of style to choose between them.
– JeremyC
4 hours ago
1
1
(4) is ungrammatical and (5) is marginal. Of the rest, (2) is the best; pied-piping with quantifiers is quite complex, whereas quantifier-float removes all the complexities.
– John Lawler
5 hours ago
(4) is ungrammatical and (5) is marginal. Of the rest, (2) is the best; pied-piping with quantifiers is quite complex, whereas quantifier-float removes all the complexities.
– John Lawler
5 hours ago
1
1
There are some people who claim that 'whose' can only refer to persons, not things, such as manifolds. They would have to say "a manifold, all the geodesics of which are closed". Although their reasoning is suspect (there is no such 'rule'), in this particular case the formulation with 'which' seems to me no more ugly than your (1) and (3). But it is really a mater of style to choose between them.
– JeremyC
4 hours ago
There are some people who claim that 'whose' can only refer to persons, not things, such as manifolds. They would have to say "a manifold, all the geodesics of which are closed". Although their reasoning is suspect (there is no such 'rule'), in this particular case the formulation with 'which' seems to me no more ugly than your (1) and (3). But it is really a mater of style to choose between them.
– JeremyC
4 hours ago
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(4) is ungrammatical and (5) is marginal. Of the rest, (2) is the best; pied-piping with quantifiers is quite complex, whereas quantifier-float removes all the complexities.
– John Lawler
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There are some people who claim that 'whose' can only refer to persons, not things, such as manifolds. They would have to say "a manifold, all the geodesics of which are closed". Although their reasoning is suspect (there is no such 'rule'), in this particular case the formulation with 'which' seems to me no more ugly than your (1) and (3). But it is really a mater of style to choose between them.
– JeremyC
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