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I would like to use my Nikon D3100 for astrophotography. I have attached the camera to my telescope with a T-ring, after which the camera recognized the absence of the lens, which is perfectly normal. However, without the lens on, I am unable to adjust the aperture, which is extremely important for astrophotography. I can set the ISO, the shutter speed, and some other, minor things but not the Aperture.



I’m using the camera in manual mode.



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    I would like to use my Nikon D3100 for astrophotography. I have attached the camera to my telescope with a T-ring, after which the camera recognized the absence of the lens, which is perfectly normal. However, without the lens on, I am unable to adjust the aperture, which is extremely important for astrophotography. I can set the ISO, the shutter speed, and some other, minor things but not the Aperture.



    I’m using the camera in manual mode.



    Is setting the aperture without the lens even possible?










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      I would like to use my Nikon D3100 for astrophotography. I have attached the camera to my telescope with a T-ring, after which the camera recognized the absence of the lens, which is perfectly normal. However, without the lens on, I am unable to adjust the aperture, which is extremely important for astrophotography. I can set the ISO, the shutter speed, and some other, minor things but not the Aperture.



      I’m using the camera in manual mode.



      Is setting the aperture without the lens even possible?










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      I would like to use my Nikon D3100 for astrophotography. I have attached the camera to my telescope with a T-ring, after which the camera recognized the absence of the lens, which is perfectly normal. However, without the lens on, I am unable to adjust the aperture, which is extremely important for astrophotography. I can set the ISO, the shutter speed, and some other, minor things but not the Aperture.



      I’m using the camera in manual mode.



      Is setting the aperture without the lens even possible?







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          Is setting the aperture without the lens even possible?




          Considering that the aperture is a part of the lens, not the camera body, no, it is not possible.



          Telescopes do not typically have variable apertures — there's no need to stop down to limit incoming light (which is absolutely the opposite of what is wanted for star photography), and depth of field control is meaningless when all objects are no closer than the moon.



          The aperture of the telescope is the diameter of the front element. In ƒ-number terms, it is the ratio of the focal length of the telescope divided by the diameter of the front element. Be sure to use the same units (i.e., inches, or mm/cm/m).






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          • I'm not sure about OP's camera - but I know some may refuse to shoot when no aperture is selected in certain modes. Do you know if this affects the D3100?

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            @Hueco not sure precisely. It never occurred to me to use a t-mounted camera in anything other than manual mode. I had no problems shooting manual with a D90 mounted on a telescope, nor with my D800E on a scope.

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          Check your telescope manual and find the telescope's aperture. Assuming no telescope eyepiece is utilized, the camera is said to be at the "prime focus" position. Find the scope's diameter. Find the scope's focal length. Divide focal length by diameter. The results of this math is the working f number of the system. Example: 1000mm focal length 4 inch diameter. Convert all units to millimeters. Inches to millimeters conversion is 25.4. Thus 1000 / (4 X 25.4) = 1000 / 101.6 = 9.8. Round to f/10. By the way, f/10 is typical of most systems.






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            Is setting the aperture without the lens even possible?




            Considering that the aperture is a part of the lens, not the camera body, no, it is not possible.



            Telescopes do not typically have variable apertures — there's no need to stop down to limit incoming light (which is absolutely the opposite of what is wanted for star photography), and depth of field control is meaningless when all objects are no closer than the moon.



            The aperture of the telescope is the diameter of the front element. In ƒ-number terms, it is the ratio of the focal length of the telescope divided by the diameter of the front element. Be sure to use the same units (i.e., inches, or mm/cm/m).






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            • I'm not sure about OP's camera - but I know some may refuse to shoot when no aperture is selected in certain modes. Do you know if this affects the D3100?

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              @Hueco not sure precisely. It never occurred to me to use a t-mounted camera in anything other than manual mode. I had no problems shooting manual with a D90 mounted on a telescope, nor with my D800E on a scope.

              – scottbb
              3 hours ago











            • This is not entirely true--you could use an additional aperture inline between the objective and the flange.

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            Is setting the aperture without the lens even possible?




            Considering that the aperture is a part of the lens, not the camera body, no, it is not possible.



            Telescopes do not typically have variable apertures — there's no need to stop down to limit incoming light (which is absolutely the opposite of what is wanted for star photography), and depth of field control is meaningless when all objects are no closer than the moon.



            The aperture of the telescope is the diameter of the front element. In ƒ-number terms, it is the ratio of the focal length of the telescope divided by the diameter of the front element. Be sure to use the same units (i.e., inches, or mm/cm/m).






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            • I'm not sure about OP's camera - but I know some may refuse to shoot when no aperture is selected in certain modes. Do you know if this affects the D3100?

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              @Hueco not sure precisely. It never occurred to me to use a t-mounted camera in anything other than manual mode. I had no problems shooting manual with a D90 mounted on a telescope, nor with my D800E on a scope.

              – scottbb
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            • This is not entirely true--you could use an additional aperture inline between the objective and the flange.

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            Is setting the aperture without the lens even possible?




            Considering that the aperture is a part of the lens, not the camera body, no, it is not possible.



            Telescopes do not typically have variable apertures — there's no need to stop down to limit incoming light (which is absolutely the opposite of what is wanted for star photography), and depth of field control is meaningless when all objects are no closer than the moon.



            The aperture of the telescope is the diameter of the front element. In ƒ-number terms, it is the ratio of the focal length of the telescope divided by the diameter of the front element. Be sure to use the same units (i.e., inches, or mm/cm/m).






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            Is setting the aperture without the lens even possible?




            Considering that the aperture is a part of the lens, not the camera body, no, it is not possible.



            Telescopes do not typically have variable apertures — there's no need to stop down to limit incoming light (which is absolutely the opposite of what is wanted for star photography), and depth of field control is meaningless when all objects are no closer than the moon.



            The aperture of the telescope is the diameter of the front element. In ƒ-number terms, it is the ratio of the focal length of the telescope divided by the diameter of the front element. Be sure to use the same units (i.e., inches, or mm/cm/m).







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            • I'm not sure about OP's camera - but I know some may refuse to shoot when no aperture is selected in certain modes. Do you know if this affects the D3100?

              – Hueco
              3 hours ago






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              @Hueco not sure precisely. It never occurred to me to use a t-mounted camera in anything other than manual mode. I had no problems shooting manual with a D90 mounted on a telescope, nor with my D800E on a scope.

              – scottbb
              3 hours ago











            • This is not entirely true--you could use an additional aperture inline between the objective and the flange.

              – chrylis
              3 mins ago

















            • I'm not sure about OP's camera - but I know some may refuse to shoot when no aperture is selected in certain modes. Do you know if this affects the D3100?

              – Hueco
              3 hours ago






            • 1





              @Hueco not sure precisely. It never occurred to me to use a t-mounted camera in anything other than manual mode. I had no problems shooting manual with a D90 mounted on a telescope, nor with my D800E on a scope.

              – scottbb
              3 hours ago











            • This is not entirely true--you could use an additional aperture inline between the objective and the flange.

              – chrylis
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            I'm not sure about OP's camera - but I know some may refuse to shoot when no aperture is selected in certain modes. Do you know if this affects the D3100?

            – Hueco
            3 hours ago





            I'm not sure about OP's camera - but I know some may refuse to shoot when no aperture is selected in certain modes. Do you know if this affects the D3100?

            – Hueco
            3 hours ago




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            @Hueco not sure precisely. It never occurred to me to use a t-mounted camera in anything other than manual mode. I had no problems shooting manual with a D90 mounted on a telescope, nor with my D800E on a scope.

            – scottbb
            3 hours ago





            @Hueco not sure precisely. It never occurred to me to use a t-mounted camera in anything other than manual mode. I had no problems shooting manual with a D90 mounted on a telescope, nor with my D800E on a scope.

            – scottbb
            3 hours ago













            This is not entirely true--you could use an additional aperture inline between the objective and the flange.

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            This is not entirely true--you could use an additional aperture inline between the objective and the flange.

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            Check your telescope manual and find the telescope's aperture. Assuming no telescope eyepiece is utilized, the camera is said to be at the "prime focus" position. Find the scope's diameter. Find the scope's focal length. Divide focal length by diameter. The results of this math is the working f number of the system. Example: 1000mm focal length 4 inch diameter. Convert all units to millimeters. Inches to millimeters conversion is 25.4. Thus 1000 / (4 X 25.4) = 1000 / 101.6 = 9.8. Round to f/10. By the way, f/10 is typical of most systems.






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              Check your telescope manual and find the telescope's aperture. Assuming no telescope eyepiece is utilized, the camera is said to be at the "prime focus" position. Find the scope's diameter. Find the scope's focal length. Divide focal length by diameter. The results of this math is the working f number of the system. Example: 1000mm focal length 4 inch diameter. Convert all units to millimeters. Inches to millimeters conversion is 25.4. Thus 1000 / (4 X 25.4) = 1000 / 101.6 = 9.8. Round to f/10. By the way, f/10 is typical of most systems.






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                Check your telescope manual and find the telescope's aperture. Assuming no telescope eyepiece is utilized, the camera is said to be at the "prime focus" position. Find the scope's diameter. Find the scope's focal length. Divide focal length by diameter. The results of this math is the working f number of the system. Example: 1000mm focal length 4 inch diameter. Convert all units to millimeters. Inches to millimeters conversion is 25.4. Thus 1000 / (4 X 25.4) = 1000 / 101.6 = 9.8. Round to f/10. By the way, f/10 is typical of most systems.






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                Check your telescope manual and find the telescope's aperture. Assuming no telescope eyepiece is utilized, the camera is said to be at the "prime focus" position. Find the scope's diameter. Find the scope's focal length. Divide focal length by diameter. The results of this math is the working f number of the system. Example: 1000mm focal length 4 inch diameter. Convert all units to millimeters. Inches to millimeters conversion is 25.4. Thus 1000 / (4 X 25.4) = 1000 / 101.6 = 9.8. Round to f/10. By the way, f/10 is typical of most systems.







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