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Why do people think Winterfell crypts is the safest place for women, children & old people?
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In Game of Thrones S08E02 The Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, it is repeatedly mentioned by multiple characters (I counted 6) that when the Night King & the Army of the Dead attack, Winterfell crypts is the safest place to be for women, children & old people.
But why is that. As far as I can see, it's got a single way down with lots of steps & poorly lit. If the dead win, the people there will be slaughtered with no way out. In any other place, they would have a chance to run at least.
Why would this be the safest place
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In Game of Thrones S08E02 The Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, it is repeatedly mentioned by multiple characters (I counted 6) that when the Night King & the Army of the Dead attack, Winterfell crypts is the safest place to be for women, children & old people.
But why is that. As far as I can see, it's got a single way down with lots of steps & poorly lit. If the dead win, the people there will be slaughtered with no way out. In any other place, they would have a chance to run at least.
Why would this be the safest place
game-of-thrones a-song-of-ice-and-fire
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The crypts are huge, so you can protect a lot of people in one place. One way in means only one entrance to defend.
– svenvo7
5 hours ago
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In Game of Thrones S08E02 The Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, it is repeatedly mentioned by multiple characters (I counted 6) that when the Night King & the Army of the Dead attack, Winterfell crypts is the safest place to be for women, children & old people.
But why is that. As far as I can see, it's got a single way down with lots of steps & poorly lit. If the dead win, the people there will be slaughtered with no way out. In any other place, they would have a chance to run at least.
Why would this be the safest place
game-of-thrones a-song-of-ice-and-fire
In Game of Thrones S08E02 The Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, it is repeatedly mentioned by multiple characters (I counted 6) that when the Night King & the Army of the Dead attack, Winterfell crypts is the safest place to be for women, children & old people.
But why is that. As far as I can see, it's got a single way down with lots of steps & poorly lit. If the dead win, the people there will be slaughtered with no way out. In any other place, they would have a chance to run at least.
Why would this be the safest place
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The crypts are huge, so you can protect a lot of people in one place. One way in means only one entrance to defend.
– svenvo7
5 hours ago
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The crypts are huge, so you can protect a lot of people in one place. One way in means only one entrance to defend.
– svenvo7
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The crypts are huge, so you can protect a lot of people in one place. One way in means only one entrance to defend.
– svenvo7
5 hours ago
The crypts are huge, so you can protect a lot of people in one place. One way in means only one entrance to defend.
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It is the safest place while the battle rages on, similar to the Battle of Helm's Deep in LOTR: while in the crypt/cave, the non-combatant are out of harms way, and in no risk of being hit by a stray projectile or shrapnel. Plus, if the defenses are breached, then there is no risk of any number of civilians falling in the hands of the enemy to be slaughtered and join the Army of the Dead.
Of course, if they lose the battle, then everyone dies, but that's why they are fighting in the first place: to avoid being wiped out.
If they win, then the civilians, used in the modern sense opposed to military people, are safe and sound and can tend to the wounded combatants who survived the battle and start rebuilding and such.
As for running, it's highly unlikely that the women, children and old people would go very far before being caught by the Army of the Dead and slaughtered in the open fields. Especially since winter has finally come. There is no running from the Army of the Dead. Besides, from a strategic standpoint, any way out is also a potential way in.
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Though there may be some concern about hiding the people least able to defend themselves in sealed, dark caverns filled with corpses when their attackers can raise the dead to fight for them.
– Upper_Case
5 hours ago
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I think it's a perfect example of the idiot plot, ie characters doing stupid things in order to advance the plot, eg hiding in the cemetery when your enemy is a necromancer...
– Rebel-Scum
4 hours ago
7
@Upper_Case: I would expect that the crypts of Winterfell have, over and over, been used to shelter the non-combattants. At this point, it's probably a reflex: battle coming => non-combattants in the crypt. And so it suffers from the same problem as any reflex: people have stopped thinking about it, especially when their mind is already preoccupied with attempting to win against such a huge army.
– Matthieu M.
4 hours ago
7
There is no evidence that the White Walkers can just raise any old skeleton as a wight. They have only been seen to raise the newly dead.
– HamHamJ
3 hours ago
4
@HamHamJ - the wights in the show have a wide range of decay, some are somewhat skeletal such as the ones that attacked Bran when he and his party (Jojen, Meera, Summer and Hodor) first reached the Three-Eyed Raven.
– m1gp0z
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It is the safest place while the battle rages on, similar to the Battle of Helm's Deep in LOTR: while in the crypt/cave, the non-combatant are out of harms way, and in no risk of being hit by a stray projectile or shrapnel. Plus, if the defenses are breached, then there is no risk of any number of civilians falling in the hands of the enemy to be slaughtered and join the Army of the Dead.
Of course, if they lose the battle, then everyone dies, but that's why they are fighting in the first place: to avoid being wiped out.
If they win, then the civilians, used in the modern sense opposed to military people, are safe and sound and can tend to the wounded combatants who survived the battle and start rebuilding and such.
As for running, it's highly unlikely that the women, children and old people would go very far before being caught by the Army of the Dead and slaughtered in the open fields. Especially since winter has finally come. There is no running from the Army of the Dead. Besides, from a strategic standpoint, any way out is also a potential way in.
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Though there may be some concern about hiding the people least able to defend themselves in sealed, dark caverns filled with corpses when their attackers can raise the dead to fight for them.
– Upper_Case
5 hours ago
3
I think it's a perfect example of the idiot plot, ie characters doing stupid things in order to advance the plot, eg hiding in the cemetery when your enemy is a necromancer...
– Rebel-Scum
4 hours ago
7
@Upper_Case: I would expect that the crypts of Winterfell have, over and over, been used to shelter the non-combattants. At this point, it's probably a reflex: battle coming => non-combattants in the crypt. And so it suffers from the same problem as any reflex: people have stopped thinking about it, especially when their mind is already preoccupied with attempting to win against such a huge army.
– Matthieu M.
4 hours ago
7
There is no evidence that the White Walkers can just raise any old skeleton as a wight. They have only been seen to raise the newly dead.
– HamHamJ
3 hours ago
4
@HamHamJ - the wights in the show have a wide range of decay, some are somewhat skeletal such as the ones that attacked Bran when he and his party (Jojen, Meera, Summer and Hodor) first reached the Three-Eyed Raven.
– m1gp0z
3 hours ago
|
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It is the safest place while the battle rages on, similar to the Battle of Helm's Deep in LOTR: while in the crypt/cave, the non-combatant are out of harms way, and in no risk of being hit by a stray projectile or shrapnel. Plus, if the defenses are breached, then there is no risk of any number of civilians falling in the hands of the enemy to be slaughtered and join the Army of the Dead.
Of course, if they lose the battle, then everyone dies, but that's why they are fighting in the first place: to avoid being wiped out.
If they win, then the civilians, used in the modern sense opposed to military people, are safe and sound and can tend to the wounded combatants who survived the battle and start rebuilding and such.
As for running, it's highly unlikely that the women, children and old people would go very far before being caught by the Army of the Dead and slaughtered in the open fields. Especially since winter has finally come. There is no running from the Army of the Dead. Besides, from a strategic standpoint, any way out is also a potential way in.
10
Though there may be some concern about hiding the people least able to defend themselves in sealed, dark caverns filled with corpses when their attackers can raise the dead to fight for them.
– Upper_Case
5 hours ago
3
I think it's a perfect example of the idiot plot, ie characters doing stupid things in order to advance the plot, eg hiding in the cemetery when your enemy is a necromancer...
– Rebel-Scum
4 hours ago
7
@Upper_Case: I would expect that the crypts of Winterfell have, over and over, been used to shelter the non-combattants. At this point, it's probably a reflex: battle coming => non-combattants in the crypt. And so it suffers from the same problem as any reflex: people have stopped thinking about it, especially when their mind is already preoccupied with attempting to win against such a huge army.
– Matthieu M.
4 hours ago
7
There is no evidence that the White Walkers can just raise any old skeleton as a wight. They have only been seen to raise the newly dead.
– HamHamJ
3 hours ago
4
@HamHamJ - the wights in the show have a wide range of decay, some are somewhat skeletal such as the ones that attacked Bran when he and his party (Jojen, Meera, Summer and Hodor) first reached the Three-Eyed Raven.
– m1gp0z
3 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
It is the safest place while the battle rages on, similar to the Battle of Helm's Deep in LOTR: while in the crypt/cave, the non-combatant are out of harms way, and in no risk of being hit by a stray projectile or shrapnel. Plus, if the defenses are breached, then there is no risk of any number of civilians falling in the hands of the enemy to be slaughtered and join the Army of the Dead.
Of course, if they lose the battle, then everyone dies, but that's why they are fighting in the first place: to avoid being wiped out.
If they win, then the civilians, used in the modern sense opposed to military people, are safe and sound and can tend to the wounded combatants who survived the battle and start rebuilding and such.
As for running, it's highly unlikely that the women, children and old people would go very far before being caught by the Army of the Dead and slaughtered in the open fields. Especially since winter has finally come. There is no running from the Army of the Dead. Besides, from a strategic standpoint, any way out is also a potential way in.
It is the safest place while the battle rages on, similar to the Battle of Helm's Deep in LOTR: while in the crypt/cave, the non-combatant are out of harms way, and in no risk of being hit by a stray projectile or shrapnel. Plus, if the defenses are breached, then there is no risk of any number of civilians falling in the hands of the enemy to be slaughtered and join the Army of the Dead.
Of course, if they lose the battle, then everyone dies, but that's why they are fighting in the first place: to avoid being wiped out.
If they win, then the civilians, used in the modern sense opposed to military people, are safe and sound and can tend to the wounded combatants who survived the battle and start rebuilding and such.
As for running, it's highly unlikely that the women, children and old people would go very far before being caught by the Army of the Dead and slaughtered in the open fields. Especially since winter has finally come. There is no running from the Army of the Dead. Besides, from a strategic standpoint, any way out is also a potential way in.
answered 5 hours ago
SavaSava
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Though there may be some concern about hiding the people least able to defend themselves in sealed, dark caverns filled with corpses when their attackers can raise the dead to fight for them.
– Upper_Case
5 hours ago
3
I think it's a perfect example of the idiot plot, ie characters doing stupid things in order to advance the plot, eg hiding in the cemetery when your enemy is a necromancer...
– Rebel-Scum
4 hours ago
7
@Upper_Case: I would expect that the crypts of Winterfell have, over and over, been used to shelter the non-combattants. At this point, it's probably a reflex: battle coming => non-combattants in the crypt. And so it suffers from the same problem as any reflex: people have stopped thinking about it, especially when their mind is already preoccupied with attempting to win against such a huge army.
– Matthieu M.
4 hours ago
7
There is no evidence that the White Walkers can just raise any old skeleton as a wight. They have only been seen to raise the newly dead.
– HamHamJ
3 hours ago
4
@HamHamJ - the wights in the show have a wide range of decay, some are somewhat skeletal such as the ones that attacked Bran when he and his party (Jojen, Meera, Summer and Hodor) first reached the Three-Eyed Raven.
– m1gp0z
3 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
10
Though there may be some concern about hiding the people least able to defend themselves in sealed, dark caverns filled with corpses when their attackers can raise the dead to fight for them.
– Upper_Case
5 hours ago
3
I think it's a perfect example of the idiot plot, ie characters doing stupid things in order to advance the plot, eg hiding in the cemetery when your enemy is a necromancer...
– Rebel-Scum
4 hours ago
7
@Upper_Case: I would expect that the crypts of Winterfell have, over and over, been used to shelter the non-combattants. At this point, it's probably a reflex: battle coming => non-combattants in the crypt. And so it suffers from the same problem as any reflex: people have stopped thinking about it, especially when their mind is already preoccupied with attempting to win against such a huge army.
– Matthieu M.
4 hours ago
7
There is no evidence that the White Walkers can just raise any old skeleton as a wight. They have only been seen to raise the newly dead.
– HamHamJ
3 hours ago
4
@HamHamJ - the wights in the show have a wide range of decay, some are somewhat skeletal such as the ones that attacked Bran when he and his party (Jojen, Meera, Summer and Hodor) first reached the Three-Eyed Raven.
– m1gp0z
3 hours ago
10
10
Though there may be some concern about hiding the people least able to defend themselves in sealed, dark caverns filled with corpses when their attackers can raise the dead to fight for them.
– Upper_Case
5 hours ago
Though there may be some concern about hiding the people least able to defend themselves in sealed, dark caverns filled with corpses when their attackers can raise the dead to fight for them.
– Upper_Case
5 hours ago
3
3
I think it's a perfect example of the idiot plot, ie characters doing stupid things in order to advance the plot, eg hiding in the cemetery when your enemy is a necromancer...
– Rebel-Scum
4 hours ago
I think it's a perfect example of the idiot plot, ie characters doing stupid things in order to advance the plot, eg hiding in the cemetery when your enemy is a necromancer...
– Rebel-Scum
4 hours ago
7
7
@Upper_Case: I would expect that the crypts of Winterfell have, over and over, been used to shelter the non-combattants. At this point, it's probably a reflex: battle coming => non-combattants in the crypt. And so it suffers from the same problem as any reflex: people have stopped thinking about it, especially when their mind is already preoccupied with attempting to win against such a huge army.
– Matthieu M.
4 hours ago
@Upper_Case: I would expect that the crypts of Winterfell have, over and over, been used to shelter the non-combattants. At this point, it's probably a reflex: battle coming => non-combattants in the crypt. And so it suffers from the same problem as any reflex: people have stopped thinking about it, especially when their mind is already preoccupied with attempting to win against such a huge army.
– Matthieu M.
4 hours ago
7
7
There is no evidence that the White Walkers can just raise any old skeleton as a wight. They have only been seen to raise the newly dead.
– HamHamJ
3 hours ago
There is no evidence that the White Walkers can just raise any old skeleton as a wight. They have only been seen to raise the newly dead.
– HamHamJ
3 hours ago
4
4
@HamHamJ - the wights in the show have a wide range of decay, some are somewhat skeletal such as the ones that attacked Bran when he and his party (Jojen, Meera, Summer and Hodor) first reached the Three-Eyed Raven.
– m1gp0z
3 hours ago
@HamHamJ - the wights in the show have a wide range of decay, some are somewhat skeletal such as the ones that attacked Bran when he and his party (Jojen, Meera, Summer and Hodor) first reached the Three-Eyed Raven.
– m1gp0z
3 hours ago
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The crypts are huge, so you can protect a lot of people in one place. One way in means only one entrance to defend.
– svenvo7
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