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Here is an interesting question raised by Alice Rhyl.



Let $C$ be a category with a terminal object $1$ and finite coproducts. How many different morphisms $f : 1 to 1 + 1$ can there be?



There are always two obvious morphisms $f : 1 to 1 + 1$, coming from the definition of coproduct. But if $C$ is the category with one object and one morphism, $1 + 1 = 1$ so these two obvious morphisms are equal and there's really just one.



Can there be three different morphisms $f : 1 to 1 + 1$? I don't know.



There can be four. Take $C = mathrmSet^2$; then the terminal object in $C$ is $(1,1)$ (where $1$ is your favorite one-element set), and there are four different morphisms $f: (1,1) to (1,1) + (1,1)$.



Indeed, any power of two is possible; just take $C = mathrmSet^n$.



What other numbers are possible? (I find finite cardinals more interesting here.)



So far $C$ has just been any category with a terminal object and finite coproducts. In a paper I'm writing with Christian Williams, I'm more interested in the case where $C$ is a cartesian closed category with finite coproducts. How many morphisms $f : 1 to 1 + 1$ can there be in this case?



(All the examples I've given above are categories of this sort.)










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    If you restrict to extensive categories, then the set of morphism from $1$ to $1 coprod 1$ form a boolean algebra. Conversely, if $B$ is a boolean algebra, then in the topos of sheaves over its stone space, the morphisms from $1$ to $1 coprod 1$ corresponds exactly to elements of $B$. So if you only care about finite set you get exactly power of $2$ in this case.
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Here is an interesting question raised by Alice Rhyl.



Let $C$ be a category with a terminal object $1$ and finite coproducts. How many different morphisms $f : 1 to 1 + 1$ can there be?



There are always two obvious morphisms $f : 1 to 1 + 1$, coming from the definition of coproduct. But if $C$ is the category with one object and one morphism, $1 + 1 = 1$ so these two obvious morphisms are equal and there's really just one.



Can there be three different morphisms $f : 1 to 1 + 1$? I don't know.



There can be four. Take $C = mathrmSet^2$; then the terminal object in $C$ is $(1,1)$ (where $1$ is your favorite one-element set), and there are four different morphisms $f: (1,1) to (1,1) + (1,1)$.



Indeed, any power of two is possible; just take $C = mathrmSet^n$.



What other numbers are possible? (I find finite cardinals more interesting here.)



So far $C$ has just been any category with a terminal object and finite coproducts. In a paper I'm writing with Christian Williams, I'm more interested in the case where $C$ is a cartesian closed category with finite coproducts. How many morphisms $f : 1 to 1 + 1$ can there be in this case?



(All the examples I've given above are categories of this sort.)










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    If you restrict to extensive categories, then the set of morphism from $1$ to $1 coprod 1$ form a boolean algebra. Conversely, if $B$ is a boolean algebra, then in the topos of sheaves over its stone space, the morphisms from $1$ to $1 coprod 1$ corresponds exactly to elements of $B$. So if you only care about finite set you get exactly power of $2$ in this case.
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Here is an interesting question raised by Alice Rhyl.



Let $C$ be a category with a terminal object $1$ and finite coproducts. How many different morphisms $f : 1 to 1 + 1$ can there be?



There are always two obvious morphisms $f : 1 to 1 + 1$, coming from the definition of coproduct. But if $C$ is the category with one object and one morphism, $1 + 1 = 1$ so these two obvious morphisms are equal and there's really just one.



Can there be three different morphisms $f : 1 to 1 + 1$? I don't know.



There can be four. Take $C = mathrmSet^2$; then the terminal object in $C$ is $(1,1)$ (where $1$ is your favorite one-element set), and there are four different morphisms $f: (1,1) to (1,1) + (1,1)$.



Indeed, any power of two is possible; just take $C = mathrmSet^n$.



What other numbers are possible? (I find finite cardinals more interesting here.)



So far $C$ has just been any category with a terminal object and finite coproducts. In a paper I'm writing with Christian Williams, I'm more interested in the case where $C$ is a cartesian closed category with finite coproducts. How many morphisms $f : 1 to 1 + 1$ can there be in this case?



(All the examples I've given above are categories of this sort.)










share|cite|improve this question











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Here is an interesting question raised by Alice Rhyl.



Let $C$ be a category with a terminal object $1$ and finite coproducts. How many different morphisms $f : 1 to 1 + 1$ can there be?



There are always two obvious morphisms $f : 1 to 1 + 1$, coming from the definition of coproduct. But if $C$ is the category with one object and one morphism, $1 + 1 = 1$ so these two obvious morphisms are equal and there's really just one.



Can there be three different morphisms $f : 1 to 1 + 1$? I don't know.



There can be four. Take $C = mathrmSet^2$; then the terminal object in $C$ is $(1,1)$ (where $1$ is your favorite one-element set), and there are four different morphisms $f: (1,1) to (1,1) + (1,1)$.



Indeed, any power of two is possible; just take $C = mathrmSet^n$.



What other numbers are possible? (I find finite cardinals more interesting here.)



So far $C$ has just been any category with a terminal object and finite coproducts. In a paper I'm writing with Christian Williams, I'm more interested in the case where $C$ is a cartesian closed category with finite coproducts. How many morphisms $f : 1 to 1 + 1$ can there be in this case?



(All the examples I've given above are categories of this sort.)







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    If you restrict to extensive categories, then the set of morphism from $1$ to $1 coprod 1$ form a boolean algebra. Conversely, if $B$ is a boolean algebra, then in the topos of sheaves over its stone space, the morphisms from $1$ to $1 coprod 1$ corresponds exactly to elements of $B$. So if you only care about finite set you get exactly power of $2$ in this case.
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    If you restrict to extensive categories, then the set of morphism from $1$ to $1 coprod 1$ form a boolean algebra. Conversely, if $B$ is a boolean algebra, then in the topos of sheaves over its stone space, the morphisms from $1$ to $1 coprod 1$ corresponds exactly to elements of $B$. So if you only care about finite set you get exactly power of $2$ in this case.
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If you restrict to extensive categories, then the set of morphism from $1$ to $1 coprod 1$ form a boolean algebra. Conversely, if $B$ is a boolean algebra, then in the topos of sheaves over its stone space, the morphisms from $1$ to $1 coprod 1$ corresponds exactly to elements of $B$. So if you only care about finite set you get exactly power of $2$ in this case.
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– Simon Henry
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If you restrict to extensive categories, then the set of morphism from $1$ to $1 coprod 1$ form a boolean algebra. Conversely, if $B$ is a boolean algebra, then in the topos of sheaves over its stone space, the morphisms from $1$ to $1 coprod 1$ corresponds exactly to elements of $B$. So if you only care about finite set you get exactly power of $2$ in this case.
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Let $V$ be any variety of idempotent operations, such as the varieties of idempotent groupoids (aka magmas), or idempotent semigroups, or semilattices, or lattices. Then $V$ is complete and cocomplete (if we include in $V$ an empty algebra); $1$ is just the $1$-element algebra, and morphisms $1to A$ are in 1–1 correspondence with set-theoretical elements of $A$. The object $1$ is also the free algebra on $1$ generator, hence $1+1$ is the free algebra on $2$ generators. So, all in all, there are as many morphisms $1to1+1$ as is the cardinality of the free $V$-algebra on two generators. For example:



  • If $V$ is the variety of semilattices, the number is $3$.


  • If $V$ is the variety of idempotent semigroups, the number is $6$.


  • If $V$ is the variety of idempotent groupoids, the number is $aleph_0$. More generally, if $V$ is the variety of all algebras with $kappagealeph_0$ idempotent binary operations, then the number is $kappa$.






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    • If $V$ is the variety of semilattices, the number is $3$.


    • If $V$ is the variety of idempotent semigroups, the number is $6$.


    • If $V$ is the variety of idempotent groupoids, the number is $aleph_0$. More generally, if $V$ is the variety of all algebras with $kappagealeph_0$ idempotent binary operations, then the number is $kappa$.






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      • If $V$ is the variety of semilattices, the number is $3$.


      • If $V$ is the variety of idempotent semigroups, the number is $6$.


      • If $V$ is the variety of idempotent groupoids, the number is $aleph_0$. More generally, if $V$ is the variety of all algebras with $kappagealeph_0$ idempotent binary operations, then the number is $kappa$.






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        Let $V$ be any variety of idempotent operations, such as the varieties of idempotent groupoids (aka magmas), or idempotent semigroups, or semilattices, or lattices. Then $V$ is complete and cocomplete (if we include in $V$ an empty algebra); $1$ is just the $1$-element algebra, and morphisms $1to A$ are in 1–1 correspondence with set-theoretical elements of $A$. The object $1$ is also the free algebra on $1$ generator, hence $1+1$ is the free algebra on $2$ generators. So, all in all, there are as many morphisms $1to1+1$ as is the cardinality of the free $V$-algebra on two generators. For example:



        • If $V$ is the variety of semilattices, the number is $3$.


        • If $V$ is the variety of idempotent semigroups, the number is $6$.


        • If $V$ is the variety of idempotent groupoids, the number is $aleph_0$. More generally, if $V$ is the variety of all algebras with $kappagealeph_0$ idempotent binary operations, then the number is $kappa$.






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        • If $V$ is the variety of semilattices, the number is $3$.


        • If $V$ is the variety of idempotent semigroups, the number is $6$.


        • If $V$ is the variety of idempotent groupoids, the number is $aleph_0$. More generally, if $V$ is the variety of all algebras with $kappagealeph_0$ idempotent binary operations, then the number is $kappa$.







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