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I’ve posted 5 photos on my timeline. Have you seen these/those
photos? You’ll love these/those photos! These/Those photos were taken in France.




Should I use “these” or “those” when I refer to something in the first sentence?



Are there any simple rules that I should follow?



NOTES:



I know that I should use “this(singular)” and “these(plural)” for things that are near me.



I know that I should use “that(singular)” and “those(plural)” for things that are far from me.



In my example there is no “distance”.



What should I do? Changing the sentence is not an option.










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    I’ve posted 5 photos on my timeline. Have you seen these/those
    photos? You’ll love these/those photos! These/Those photos were taken in France.




    Should I use “these” or “those” when I refer to something in the first sentence?



    Are there any simple rules that I should follow?



    NOTES:



    I know that I should use “this(singular)” and “these(plural)” for things that are near me.



    I know that I should use “that(singular)” and “those(plural)” for things that are far from me.



    In my example there is no “distance”.



    What should I do? Changing the sentence is not an option.










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      I’ve posted 5 photos on my timeline. Have you seen these/those
      photos? You’ll love these/those photos! These/Those photos were taken in France.




      Should I use “these” or “those” when I refer to something in the first sentence?



      Are there any simple rules that I should follow?



      NOTES:



      I know that I should use “this(singular)” and “these(plural)” for things that are near me.



      I know that I should use “that(singular)” and “those(plural)” for things that are far from me.



      In my example there is no “distance”.



      What should I do? Changing the sentence is not an option.










      share|improve this question















      I’ve posted 5 photos on my timeline. Have you seen these/those
      photos? You’ll love these/those photos! These/Those photos were taken in France.




      Should I use “these” or “those” when I refer to something in the first sentence?



      Are there any simple rules that I should follow?



      NOTES:



      I know that I should use “this(singular)” and “these(plural)” for things that are near me.



      I know that I should use “that(singular)” and “those(plural)” for things that are far from me.



      In my example there is no “distance”.



      What should I do? Changing the sentence is not an option.







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          Neither sounds good, but "those" is more natural.



          You are asking about which demonstrative pronouns (this, that, these, those) most appropriately mean "the aforementioned." It's hard to specify a rule that answers the question generally. But I would say you only use "these" when you want to emphasize that you mean specifically the aforementioned photos, and NOT some other ones. In other cases, default to those.



          I know you said that changing the text was not an option, but it sounds terrible as it is. Just for the record, I would rewrite it as:




          I’ve posted 5 photos on my timeline. Have you seen them?
          You’ll love them! They were taken in
          France.




          When it's phrased like this, the these/those confusion is irrelevant. Also, reusing the word "photos" multiple times, as is done in the original, makes the text feel stilted and robotic.






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            During studying "this,that,these,those", I was reading that "this,that..." also used for time-conditioned phrases/sentences. When things taking place in the past or future, using "that or those", where to use "this,these" for things in present. e.g. "That was the moment......(past)"



            Cambridge Dictionary: "those"




            In those days it was considered not quite proper for young ladies to
            be seen talking to men in public.







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              This, That, These, Those
              These are demonstrative pronouns. Used to demonstrate (show) something.



              This - One & Near (Singular)



              e.g. This is my bag.



              That - One & Away (Singular)



              e.g. That is not his car.



              These - Many & Near (Plural)



              e.g. These are my friends.



              Those - Many & away (Plural)



              e.g. Those are his books.



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              Neither sounds good, but "those" is more natural.



              You are asking about which demonstrative pronouns (this, that, these, those) most appropriately mean "the aforementioned." It's hard to specify a rule that answers the question generally. But I would say you only use "these" when you want to emphasize that you mean specifically the aforementioned photos, and NOT some other ones. In other cases, default to those.



              I know you said that changing the text was not an option, but it sounds terrible as it is. Just for the record, I would rewrite it as:




              I’ve posted 5 photos on my timeline. Have you seen them?
              You’ll love them! They were taken in
              France.




              When it's phrased like this, the these/those confusion is irrelevant. Also, reusing the word "photos" multiple times, as is done in the original, makes the text feel stilted and robotic.






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                Neither sounds good, but "those" is more natural.



                You are asking about which demonstrative pronouns (this, that, these, those) most appropriately mean "the aforementioned." It's hard to specify a rule that answers the question generally. But I would say you only use "these" when you want to emphasize that you mean specifically the aforementioned photos, and NOT some other ones. In other cases, default to those.



                I know you said that changing the text was not an option, but it sounds terrible as it is. Just for the record, I would rewrite it as:




                I’ve posted 5 photos on my timeline. Have you seen them?
                You’ll love them! They were taken in
                France.




                When it's phrased like this, the these/those confusion is irrelevant. Also, reusing the word "photos" multiple times, as is done in the original, makes the text feel stilted and robotic.






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                  Neither sounds good, but "those" is more natural.



                  You are asking about which demonstrative pronouns (this, that, these, those) most appropriately mean "the aforementioned." It's hard to specify a rule that answers the question generally. But I would say you only use "these" when you want to emphasize that you mean specifically the aforementioned photos, and NOT some other ones. In other cases, default to those.



                  I know you said that changing the text was not an option, but it sounds terrible as it is. Just for the record, I would rewrite it as:




                  I’ve posted 5 photos on my timeline. Have you seen them?
                  You’ll love them! They were taken in
                  France.




                  When it's phrased like this, the these/those confusion is irrelevant. Also, reusing the word "photos" multiple times, as is done in the original, makes the text feel stilted and robotic.






                  share|improve this answer













                  Neither sounds good, but "those" is more natural.



                  You are asking about which demonstrative pronouns (this, that, these, those) most appropriately mean "the aforementioned." It's hard to specify a rule that answers the question generally. But I would say you only use "these" when you want to emphasize that you mean specifically the aforementioned photos, and NOT some other ones. In other cases, default to those.



                  I know you said that changing the text was not an option, but it sounds terrible as it is. Just for the record, I would rewrite it as:




                  I’ve posted 5 photos on my timeline. Have you seen them?
                  You’ll love them! They were taken in
                  France.




                  When it's phrased like this, the these/those confusion is irrelevant. Also, reusing the word "photos" multiple times, as is done in the original, makes the text feel stilted and robotic.







                  share|improve this answer












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                      During studying "this,that,these,those", I was reading that "this,that..." also used for time-conditioned phrases/sentences. When things taking place in the past or future, using "that or those", where to use "this,these" for things in present. e.g. "That was the moment......(past)"



                      Cambridge Dictionary: "those"




                      In those days it was considered not quite proper for young ladies to
                      be seen talking to men in public.







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                        During studying "this,that,these,those", I was reading that "this,that..." also used for time-conditioned phrases/sentences. When things taking place in the past or future, using "that or those", where to use "this,these" for things in present. e.g. "That was the moment......(past)"



                        Cambridge Dictionary: "those"




                        In those days it was considered not quite proper for young ladies to
                        be seen talking to men in public.







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                          During studying "this,that,these,those", I was reading that "this,that..." also used for time-conditioned phrases/sentences. When things taking place in the past or future, using "that or those", where to use "this,these" for things in present. e.g. "That was the moment......(past)"



                          Cambridge Dictionary: "those"




                          In those days it was considered not quite proper for young ladies to
                          be seen talking to men in public.







                          share|improve this answer















                          During studying "this,that,these,those", I was reading that "this,that..." also used for time-conditioned phrases/sentences. When things taking place in the past or future, using "that or those", where to use "this,these" for things in present. e.g. "That was the moment......(past)"



                          Cambridge Dictionary: "those"




                          In those days it was considered not quite proper for young ladies to
                          be seen talking to men in public.








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                              This, That, These, Those
                              These are demonstrative pronouns. Used to demonstrate (show) something.



                              This - One & Near (Singular)



                              e.g. This is my bag.



                              That - One & Away (Singular)



                              e.g. That is not his car.



                              These - Many & Near (Plural)



                              e.g. These are my friends.



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                              e.g. Those are his books.



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                              • @JJJ of more concern is the OP links directly to the user's personal blog without disclosing the author's affiliation. Clearly spam.

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                                @Chappo fair enough, I had it on NAA, but that blog indeed seems too personal to pass for just NAA.

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                              This, That, These, Those
                              These are demonstrative pronouns. Used to demonstrate (show) something.



                              This - One & Near (Singular)



                              e.g. This is my bag.



                              That - One & Away (Singular)



                              e.g. That is not his car.



                              These - Many & Near (Plural)



                              e.g. These are my friends.



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                              e.g. Those are his books.



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                              This, That, These, Those
                              These are demonstrative pronouns. Used to demonstrate (show) something.



                              This - One & Near (Singular)



                              e.g. This is my bag.



                              That - One & Away (Singular)



                              e.g. That is not his car.



                              These - Many & Near (Plural)



                              e.g. These are my friends.



                              Those - Many & away (Plural)



                              e.g. Those are his books.



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                              This, That, These, Those
                              These are demonstrative pronouns. Used to demonstrate (show) something.



                              This - One & Near (Singular)



                              e.g. This is my bag.



                              That - One & Away (Singular)



                              e.g. That is not his car.



                              These - Many & Near (Plural)



                              e.g. These are my friends.



                              Those - Many & away (Plural)



                              e.g. Those are his books.



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                                – Chappo
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