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Why is Grand Jury testimony secret?
The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InWhat is the percent of Police Officers that are indicted by a Grand Jury?Secret service nameSecret ballot vs vote by mailWhy are electoral college votes not secret?Do DOJ regulations prohibit a Special Counsel from indicting the President?How many presidents have been subject to a grand jury?Why was Grand Staircase-Escalante never upgraded from a Monument to a Park?Policy on disclosing “closed door” testimony before a House CommitteeWhy was the “value-added model” algorithm kept secret?Can defense acquisitions by countries be kept secret?
I’ve been following US news lately, and am quite confused about something that keeps coming up: why can’t grand jury testimony be released?
William Barr and others keep mentioning that a lot of the Mueller Report can’t be released because of this being true. Does this apply only to testimony in hearings about people who weren’t indicted or does it apply to all grand jury testimony? Why do these rules exist?
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I’ve been following US news lately, and am quite confused about something that keeps coming up: why can’t grand jury testimony be released?
William Barr and others keep mentioning that a lot of the Mueller Report can’t be released because of this being true. Does this apply only to testimony in hearings about people who weren’t indicted or does it apply to all grand jury testimony? Why do these rules exist?
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I’ve been following US news lately, and am quite confused about something that keeps coming up: why can’t grand jury testimony be released?
William Barr and others keep mentioning that a lot of the Mueller Report can’t be released because of this being true. Does this apply only to testimony in hearings about people who weren’t indicted or does it apply to all grand jury testimony? Why do these rules exist?
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I’ve been following US news lately, and am quite confused about something that keeps coming up: why can’t grand jury testimony be released?
William Barr and others keep mentioning that a lot of the Mueller Report can’t be released because of this being true. Does this apply only to testimony in hearings about people who weren’t indicted or does it apply to all grand jury testimony? Why do these rules exist?
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Federal grand jury testimony is kept secret due to grand juries operating under far less strict legal standards and proceedings than a typical jury trial, as their primary duty is not to convict an individual but to grant authority to the US Attorney General to pursue charges against an individual, as per the Fifth Amendment:
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury...
The grand jury panel is led by the prosecution, not an impartial judge. The defendant is forbidden from presenting their case against the prosecution; in fact, the defendant will frequently not even be notified a grand jury has been convened against them. The grand jury is instructed to return an indictment if 12 of the 16-23 members find "probable cause" of a crime, not the "beyond reasonable doubt" standard of a typical trial where 12 jurors must unanimously agree.
This means, in their duty to grant authority to federal government to pursue charges, the grand jury is inherently one-sided. The defendant does not have the opportunity to defend themselves until the regular trial, at which point any relevant information used in the grand jury panel will have to be re-introduced to the case as part of normal legal proceedings.
The preliminary and non-enforceable nature of grand jury panels was part of the rational for the Supreme Court upholding the secrecy of grand juries in Douglas Oil Co. of Cal. v. Petrol Stops Northwest in 1979. Justice Powell writing for the majority stated:
First, if preindictment proceedings were made public, many prospective witnesses would be hesitant to come forward voluntarily, knowing that those against whom they testify would be aware of that testimony. Moreover, witnesses who appeared before the grand jury would be less likely to testify fully and frankly, as they would be open to retribution as well as to inducements. There also would be the risk that those about to be indicted would flee, or would try to influence individual grand jurors to vote against indictment. Finally, by preserving the secrecy of the proceedings, we assure that persons who are accused but exonerated by the grand jury will not be held up to public ridicule.
There are court cases prior to that ruling that do allow for the disclosure of grand jury transcripts with certain restrictions, such as the 1958 case United States v. Protect & Gamble Co. which found allows a private party to obtain transcripts if their defense would be greatly prejudiced without access to those transcripts, the 1966 case Dennis v. United States which would that First Amendment protections which allowed grand jury panel witnesses to publicly discuss their testimony allows for public dissemntation of their testimony, or the Jencks Act which releases grand jury testimony of a witness to be released to the defense after said witness testifies in open trial, however these disclosures primarily deal with the use of grand jury testimony in further legal proceedings, and do not yet include any release of on the basis of public interest alone.
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Grand juries are used to determine if there is enough evidence to bring a case to trial. Even if they decide there is enough evidence to bring a case to trial, the State may not be able to prove that the accused committed a crime. We all (well, at least most people) agree that if a person is not found guilty then the State shouldn't punish them. If the grand jury decides that there is not enough evidence, then the State certainly can't prove beyond reasonable doubt that the accused is guilty. Releasing the grand jury testimony to the public would only serve to harm the accused's reputation and good name, in essence a way to punish the accused without the State having to prove anything. It's for this reason that grand juries are generally convened in secret, with the subjects of them rarely knowing that there's even a trial about them. The goal is to prevent people from unfairly having their reputations tarnished and reduce the harm that can be done by the government.
In this particular case, I think that the benefit to the nation likely outweighs the unfair harm done by the State, but that's not really something that we want to generalize.
1
+1 for focusing on the prejudicial nature of grand jury testimony, even in cases where no formal indictment is made. This is the most important factor to not releasing such testimony.
– Jim
7 hours ago
3
@Jim Yeah, and that's why it gets complicated in things like this, where it may be relevant to the voters and the country even if it's not necessarily criminal. I feel like an exception may be warranted in cases of elected officials who are investigated for crimes involving their official duties, where the value to the voters may outweigh the harms. The question then becomes - who decides what's relevant to their official duties? Was Bill Clinton's perjury relevant to abuses of power regarding financing deals made before he was President? It's a tricky thing to balance.
– David Rice
6 hours ago
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Federal grand jury testimony is kept secret due to grand juries operating under far less strict legal standards and proceedings than a typical jury trial, as their primary duty is not to convict an individual but to grant authority to the US Attorney General to pursue charges against an individual, as per the Fifth Amendment:
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury...
The grand jury panel is led by the prosecution, not an impartial judge. The defendant is forbidden from presenting their case against the prosecution; in fact, the defendant will frequently not even be notified a grand jury has been convened against them. The grand jury is instructed to return an indictment if 12 of the 16-23 members find "probable cause" of a crime, not the "beyond reasonable doubt" standard of a typical trial where 12 jurors must unanimously agree.
This means, in their duty to grant authority to federal government to pursue charges, the grand jury is inherently one-sided. The defendant does not have the opportunity to defend themselves until the regular trial, at which point any relevant information used in the grand jury panel will have to be re-introduced to the case as part of normal legal proceedings.
The preliminary and non-enforceable nature of grand jury panels was part of the rational for the Supreme Court upholding the secrecy of grand juries in Douglas Oil Co. of Cal. v. Petrol Stops Northwest in 1979. Justice Powell writing for the majority stated:
First, if preindictment proceedings were made public, many prospective witnesses would be hesitant to come forward voluntarily, knowing that those against whom they testify would be aware of that testimony. Moreover, witnesses who appeared before the grand jury would be less likely to testify fully and frankly, as they would be open to retribution as well as to inducements. There also would be the risk that those about to be indicted would flee, or would try to influence individual grand jurors to vote against indictment. Finally, by preserving the secrecy of the proceedings, we assure that persons who are accused but exonerated by the grand jury will not be held up to public ridicule.
There are court cases prior to that ruling that do allow for the disclosure of grand jury transcripts with certain restrictions, such as the 1958 case United States v. Protect & Gamble Co. which found allows a private party to obtain transcripts if their defense would be greatly prejudiced without access to those transcripts, the 1966 case Dennis v. United States which would that First Amendment protections which allowed grand jury panel witnesses to publicly discuss their testimony allows for public dissemntation of their testimony, or the Jencks Act which releases grand jury testimony of a witness to be released to the defense after said witness testifies in open trial, however these disclosures primarily deal with the use of grand jury testimony in further legal proceedings, and do not yet include any release of on the basis of public interest alone.
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Federal grand jury testimony is kept secret due to grand juries operating under far less strict legal standards and proceedings than a typical jury trial, as their primary duty is not to convict an individual but to grant authority to the US Attorney General to pursue charges against an individual, as per the Fifth Amendment:
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury...
The grand jury panel is led by the prosecution, not an impartial judge. The defendant is forbidden from presenting their case against the prosecution; in fact, the defendant will frequently not even be notified a grand jury has been convened against them. The grand jury is instructed to return an indictment if 12 of the 16-23 members find "probable cause" of a crime, not the "beyond reasonable doubt" standard of a typical trial where 12 jurors must unanimously agree.
This means, in their duty to grant authority to federal government to pursue charges, the grand jury is inherently one-sided. The defendant does not have the opportunity to defend themselves until the regular trial, at which point any relevant information used in the grand jury panel will have to be re-introduced to the case as part of normal legal proceedings.
The preliminary and non-enforceable nature of grand jury panels was part of the rational for the Supreme Court upholding the secrecy of grand juries in Douglas Oil Co. of Cal. v. Petrol Stops Northwest in 1979. Justice Powell writing for the majority stated:
First, if preindictment proceedings were made public, many prospective witnesses would be hesitant to come forward voluntarily, knowing that those against whom they testify would be aware of that testimony. Moreover, witnesses who appeared before the grand jury would be less likely to testify fully and frankly, as they would be open to retribution as well as to inducements. There also would be the risk that those about to be indicted would flee, or would try to influence individual grand jurors to vote against indictment. Finally, by preserving the secrecy of the proceedings, we assure that persons who are accused but exonerated by the grand jury will not be held up to public ridicule.
There are court cases prior to that ruling that do allow for the disclosure of grand jury transcripts with certain restrictions, such as the 1958 case United States v. Protect & Gamble Co. which found allows a private party to obtain transcripts if their defense would be greatly prejudiced without access to those transcripts, the 1966 case Dennis v. United States which would that First Amendment protections which allowed grand jury panel witnesses to publicly discuss their testimony allows for public dissemntation of their testimony, or the Jencks Act which releases grand jury testimony of a witness to be released to the defense after said witness testifies in open trial, however these disclosures primarily deal with the use of grand jury testimony in further legal proceedings, and do not yet include any release of on the basis of public interest alone.
add a comment |
Federal grand jury testimony is kept secret due to grand juries operating under far less strict legal standards and proceedings than a typical jury trial, as their primary duty is not to convict an individual but to grant authority to the US Attorney General to pursue charges against an individual, as per the Fifth Amendment:
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury...
The grand jury panel is led by the prosecution, not an impartial judge. The defendant is forbidden from presenting their case against the prosecution; in fact, the defendant will frequently not even be notified a grand jury has been convened against them. The grand jury is instructed to return an indictment if 12 of the 16-23 members find "probable cause" of a crime, not the "beyond reasonable doubt" standard of a typical trial where 12 jurors must unanimously agree.
This means, in their duty to grant authority to federal government to pursue charges, the grand jury is inherently one-sided. The defendant does not have the opportunity to defend themselves until the regular trial, at which point any relevant information used in the grand jury panel will have to be re-introduced to the case as part of normal legal proceedings.
The preliminary and non-enforceable nature of grand jury panels was part of the rational for the Supreme Court upholding the secrecy of grand juries in Douglas Oil Co. of Cal. v. Petrol Stops Northwest in 1979. Justice Powell writing for the majority stated:
First, if preindictment proceedings were made public, many prospective witnesses would be hesitant to come forward voluntarily, knowing that those against whom they testify would be aware of that testimony. Moreover, witnesses who appeared before the grand jury would be less likely to testify fully and frankly, as they would be open to retribution as well as to inducements. There also would be the risk that those about to be indicted would flee, or would try to influence individual grand jurors to vote against indictment. Finally, by preserving the secrecy of the proceedings, we assure that persons who are accused but exonerated by the grand jury will not be held up to public ridicule.
There are court cases prior to that ruling that do allow for the disclosure of grand jury transcripts with certain restrictions, such as the 1958 case United States v. Protect & Gamble Co. which found allows a private party to obtain transcripts if their defense would be greatly prejudiced without access to those transcripts, the 1966 case Dennis v. United States which would that First Amendment protections which allowed grand jury panel witnesses to publicly discuss their testimony allows for public dissemntation of their testimony, or the Jencks Act which releases grand jury testimony of a witness to be released to the defense after said witness testifies in open trial, however these disclosures primarily deal with the use of grand jury testimony in further legal proceedings, and do not yet include any release of on the basis of public interest alone.
Federal grand jury testimony is kept secret due to grand juries operating under far less strict legal standards and proceedings than a typical jury trial, as their primary duty is not to convict an individual but to grant authority to the US Attorney General to pursue charges against an individual, as per the Fifth Amendment:
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury...
The grand jury panel is led by the prosecution, not an impartial judge. The defendant is forbidden from presenting their case against the prosecution; in fact, the defendant will frequently not even be notified a grand jury has been convened against them. The grand jury is instructed to return an indictment if 12 of the 16-23 members find "probable cause" of a crime, not the "beyond reasonable doubt" standard of a typical trial where 12 jurors must unanimously agree.
This means, in their duty to grant authority to federal government to pursue charges, the grand jury is inherently one-sided. The defendant does not have the opportunity to defend themselves until the regular trial, at which point any relevant information used in the grand jury panel will have to be re-introduced to the case as part of normal legal proceedings.
The preliminary and non-enforceable nature of grand jury panels was part of the rational for the Supreme Court upholding the secrecy of grand juries in Douglas Oil Co. of Cal. v. Petrol Stops Northwest in 1979. Justice Powell writing for the majority stated:
First, if preindictment proceedings were made public, many prospective witnesses would be hesitant to come forward voluntarily, knowing that those against whom they testify would be aware of that testimony. Moreover, witnesses who appeared before the grand jury would be less likely to testify fully and frankly, as they would be open to retribution as well as to inducements. There also would be the risk that those about to be indicted would flee, or would try to influence individual grand jurors to vote against indictment. Finally, by preserving the secrecy of the proceedings, we assure that persons who are accused but exonerated by the grand jury will not be held up to public ridicule.
There are court cases prior to that ruling that do allow for the disclosure of grand jury transcripts with certain restrictions, such as the 1958 case United States v. Protect & Gamble Co. which found allows a private party to obtain transcripts if their defense would be greatly prejudiced without access to those transcripts, the 1966 case Dennis v. United States which would that First Amendment protections which allowed grand jury panel witnesses to publicly discuss their testimony allows for public dissemntation of their testimony, or the Jencks Act which releases grand jury testimony of a witness to be released to the defense after said witness testifies in open trial, however these disclosures primarily deal with the use of grand jury testimony in further legal proceedings, and do not yet include any release of on the basis of public interest alone.
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Grand juries are used to determine if there is enough evidence to bring a case to trial. Even if they decide there is enough evidence to bring a case to trial, the State may not be able to prove that the accused committed a crime. We all (well, at least most people) agree that if a person is not found guilty then the State shouldn't punish them. If the grand jury decides that there is not enough evidence, then the State certainly can't prove beyond reasonable doubt that the accused is guilty. Releasing the grand jury testimony to the public would only serve to harm the accused's reputation and good name, in essence a way to punish the accused without the State having to prove anything. It's for this reason that grand juries are generally convened in secret, with the subjects of them rarely knowing that there's even a trial about them. The goal is to prevent people from unfairly having their reputations tarnished and reduce the harm that can be done by the government.
In this particular case, I think that the benefit to the nation likely outweighs the unfair harm done by the State, but that's not really something that we want to generalize.
1
+1 for focusing on the prejudicial nature of grand jury testimony, even in cases where no formal indictment is made. This is the most important factor to not releasing such testimony.
– Jim
7 hours ago
3
@Jim Yeah, and that's why it gets complicated in things like this, where it may be relevant to the voters and the country even if it's not necessarily criminal. I feel like an exception may be warranted in cases of elected officials who are investigated for crimes involving their official duties, where the value to the voters may outweigh the harms. The question then becomes - who decides what's relevant to their official duties? Was Bill Clinton's perjury relevant to abuses of power regarding financing deals made before he was President? It's a tricky thing to balance.
– David Rice
6 hours ago
add a comment |
Grand juries are used to determine if there is enough evidence to bring a case to trial. Even if they decide there is enough evidence to bring a case to trial, the State may not be able to prove that the accused committed a crime. We all (well, at least most people) agree that if a person is not found guilty then the State shouldn't punish them. If the grand jury decides that there is not enough evidence, then the State certainly can't prove beyond reasonable doubt that the accused is guilty. Releasing the grand jury testimony to the public would only serve to harm the accused's reputation and good name, in essence a way to punish the accused without the State having to prove anything. It's for this reason that grand juries are generally convened in secret, with the subjects of them rarely knowing that there's even a trial about them. The goal is to prevent people from unfairly having their reputations tarnished and reduce the harm that can be done by the government.
In this particular case, I think that the benefit to the nation likely outweighs the unfair harm done by the State, but that's not really something that we want to generalize.
1
+1 for focusing on the prejudicial nature of grand jury testimony, even in cases where no formal indictment is made. This is the most important factor to not releasing such testimony.
– Jim
7 hours ago
3
@Jim Yeah, and that's why it gets complicated in things like this, where it may be relevant to the voters and the country even if it's not necessarily criminal. I feel like an exception may be warranted in cases of elected officials who are investigated for crimes involving their official duties, where the value to the voters may outweigh the harms. The question then becomes - who decides what's relevant to their official duties? Was Bill Clinton's perjury relevant to abuses of power regarding financing deals made before he was President? It's a tricky thing to balance.
– David Rice
6 hours ago
add a comment |
Grand juries are used to determine if there is enough evidence to bring a case to trial. Even if they decide there is enough evidence to bring a case to trial, the State may not be able to prove that the accused committed a crime. We all (well, at least most people) agree that if a person is not found guilty then the State shouldn't punish them. If the grand jury decides that there is not enough evidence, then the State certainly can't prove beyond reasonable doubt that the accused is guilty. Releasing the grand jury testimony to the public would only serve to harm the accused's reputation and good name, in essence a way to punish the accused without the State having to prove anything. It's for this reason that grand juries are generally convened in secret, with the subjects of them rarely knowing that there's even a trial about them. The goal is to prevent people from unfairly having their reputations tarnished and reduce the harm that can be done by the government.
In this particular case, I think that the benefit to the nation likely outweighs the unfair harm done by the State, but that's not really something that we want to generalize.
Grand juries are used to determine if there is enough evidence to bring a case to trial. Even if they decide there is enough evidence to bring a case to trial, the State may not be able to prove that the accused committed a crime. We all (well, at least most people) agree that if a person is not found guilty then the State shouldn't punish them. If the grand jury decides that there is not enough evidence, then the State certainly can't prove beyond reasonable doubt that the accused is guilty. Releasing the grand jury testimony to the public would only serve to harm the accused's reputation and good name, in essence a way to punish the accused without the State having to prove anything. It's for this reason that grand juries are generally convened in secret, with the subjects of them rarely knowing that there's even a trial about them. The goal is to prevent people from unfairly having their reputations tarnished and reduce the harm that can be done by the government.
In this particular case, I think that the benefit to the nation likely outweighs the unfair harm done by the State, but that's not really something that we want to generalize.
answered 11 hours ago
David RiceDavid Rice
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+1 for focusing on the prejudicial nature of grand jury testimony, even in cases where no formal indictment is made. This is the most important factor to not releasing such testimony.
– Jim
7 hours ago
3
@Jim Yeah, and that's why it gets complicated in things like this, where it may be relevant to the voters and the country even if it's not necessarily criminal. I feel like an exception may be warranted in cases of elected officials who are investigated for crimes involving their official duties, where the value to the voters may outweigh the harms. The question then becomes - who decides what's relevant to their official duties? Was Bill Clinton's perjury relevant to abuses of power regarding financing deals made before he was President? It's a tricky thing to balance.
– David Rice
6 hours ago
add a comment |
1
+1 for focusing on the prejudicial nature of grand jury testimony, even in cases where no formal indictment is made. This is the most important factor to not releasing such testimony.
– Jim
7 hours ago
3
@Jim Yeah, and that's why it gets complicated in things like this, where it may be relevant to the voters and the country even if it's not necessarily criminal. I feel like an exception may be warranted in cases of elected officials who are investigated for crimes involving their official duties, where the value to the voters may outweigh the harms. The question then becomes - who decides what's relevant to their official duties? Was Bill Clinton's perjury relevant to abuses of power regarding financing deals made before he was President? It's a tricky thing to balance.
– David Rice
6 hours ago
1
1
+1 for focusing on the prejudicial nature of grand jury testimony, even in cases where no formal indictment is made. This is the most important factor to not releasing such testimony.
– Jim
7 hours ago
+1 for focusing on the prejudicial nature of grand jury testimony, even in cases where no formal indictment is made. This is the most important factor to not releasing such testimony.
– Jim
7 hours ago
3
3
@Jim Yeah, and that's why it gets complicated in things like this, where it may be relevant to the voters and the country even if it's not necessarily criminal. I feel like an exception may be warranted in cases of elected officials who are investigated for crimes involving their official duties, where the value to the voters may outweigh the harms. The question then becomes - who decides what's relevant to their official duties? Was Bill Clinton's perjury relevant to abuses of power regarding financing deals made before he was President? It's a tricky thing to balance.
– David Rice
6 hours ago
@Jim Yeah, and that's why it gets complicated in things like this, where it may be relevant to the voters and the country even if it's not necessarily criminal. I feel like an exception may be warranted in cases of elected officials who are investigated for crimes involving their official duties, where the value to the voters may outweigh the harms. The question then becomes - who decides what's relevant to their official duties? Was Bill Clinton's perjury relevant to abuses of power regarding financing deals made before he was President? It's a tricky thing to balance.
– David Rice
6 hours ago
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